Turkish Winter Teams(Quarter Final)

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1 Turkish Winter Teams(Quarter Final) YILANKIRAN vs JR. YILANKIRAN YILANKIRAN JR. YILANKIRAN JR. YILANKIRAN YILANKIRAN N O. SAKRAK E F. KEPEKCI N O.Kanlˆ E O.Gur S Y. ATABEY W E. KAYA S ˆ Ayaz W G.Yˆ lmaz Board Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W IMPs 1 3N N N N N S N S N S N S N W N W N W N W N N N N N N N N N S N S S S N W N W N N N N E E E E N E IMPs YILANKIRAN JR. YILANKIRAN This segment 41 3 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino

2 Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: YILANKIRAN EW: JR. YILANKIRAN - 0 o 3N N c 3N N J 3 K109 6 A J 6 5 K 9 8 A108 J 8 K W N S E AQ7 K AQ J Q Q N: O. SAKRAK W: E. KAYA Open E: F. KEPEKCI S: Y. ATABEY W N E S 1 p 1 p 1N p 2 p 2N p 3N p p p #1 E:: 2,4,J,A #2 N:: 9,4,Q,5 #3 S:: 2,6,J,5 #4 N:: 8,3,A,9 #5 S:: 4,T, 4,8 #6 W:: T,8,2,A #7 S:: 7,K, 3,9 #8 W:: 3,8,9,K #9 S:: Q, 5, T,7 #10 S:: 2,A,7,Q #11 W:: 6,K,3,7 #12 N:: K, Q,5, 6 #13 N:: T, J, 6, J Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: JR. YILANKIRAN - 0 EW: YILANKIRAN o 3N N c 3N N J 3 K109 6 A J 6 5 K 9 8 A108 J 8 K W N S E AQ7 K AQ J Q Q9 8 N: O.Kanlˆ W: G.Yˆ lmaz Closed E: O.Gur S: ˆ.Ayaz W N E S p p 1 p 2 p 2 p 2N p 3N p p p #1 E:: 2,A,6,9 #2 S:: 2,6,J,5 #3 N:: 8,3,A,9 #4 S:: 4,3,T,Q #5 E:: 3,7,5,K #6 N:: A,2,5,J #7 N:: 8,9,K, 6 #8 S:: Q,T,8,4 #9 S:: 2,5,K,8 #10 N:: 7,Q, 4, J #11 E:: J, 6, T, 3 #12 E:: 7, 7,K, 4 #13 E:: 9, Q, A,T barbyh: Good evening K.. T T.. T.. A K Q..1..p..p p..3N..p..p..p K.. K J.. A Q A.. Q T J.. Q T J.. A p..1..p..1N..p..2!..GF..p..2N..p..3N..p..p..p J.. A Q J A T T A K K.. Q T A Q K K.. Q T.. J J mariner1: Hi Barbara barbyh: Hi Rob nice to see you marlowepi: looks like momentum should carry

3 EW to 6S marlowepi: Hi Barbara frankaus: this one should get the pulses moving marlowepi: 6S X probably mariner1: for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the mariner1: same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need mariner1: Flash Player 9, some don t, Open one browser window per table barbyh: absolutely sybarra: and here we go marlowepi: hi colleagues & specs barbyh: hi there sybarra: hello Mashall, welcome marlowepi: 4S seems par barbyh: yes sharkey: Good morning all - Snorri, Ralf, Ian & Tony wilkinsona: welcome to Japan everyone sharkey: still dark outside in Norway snorris: A fight to 5 is my bet sharkey: I like the Korean team name - "Happy Bridge" snorris: on top of 4 ralfwil: And a good safe in 5 sharkey: who will save over 5? mcarroll: hi all snorris: hi all werge: hi Walddk4: Operator? Please insert an L in Klinger snorris: a 3nt e-w looks likly wilkinsona: HI Ed othered1: Hi, Tony! sybarra: wilkinsona: sorry, Tom wilkinsona: slam time first up snorris: 6 anyone? ralfwil: as the cards lir a grand ralfwil: lie.. sry snorris: 6 is a good contract wilkinsona: Hi Martin, Hans Walddk4: No Tony, but I heard about it. Wrong explanation by South to West that made him remove 2 XX idblu: i understand we have the 11th and 12th place team playing each other...it is swiss teams format sybarra: not sure but hopefully thee Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Last match of the qualifying. 14 boards sharkey: hi everyone Walddk4: Commentators are Carl Mathiesen, Mike Graham and Mike Polowan mdgraham: Good morning all - sunny day here in London fabsayc: rehi, both teams have 6 players roswolf: hi all Walddk5: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Final, last segment of 16 boards now roswolf: a close match now and the heat is on ovncylmz: Su an 80 takim 10 farkli grupta yarismaktalar eccone: herkese iyi aksamlar hosgeldiniz eccone: ˆ stˆ mˆ degiltirdimde eccone: ˆ vˆ nc elma dersem cˆ k elma dersem kritik nafiz1: meraba Eymen, hg eccone: hb :) MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzkg: herkese iyi seyirler hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: izmirde yapˆ lan tˆ rkiye kˆ ˆ 4lˆ takˆ mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ nda gruplarda 6. maˆ lar ovncylmz: kenana hemen taner nerde diye sorsam? ovncylmz: bana skorlari gonderecekti amma? vugraphzkg: :) ovncylmz: Selam herkese ovncylmz: Turkiye Kis 4lu Sampiyonalari 1/16 Knockout Maci ovncylmz: Izmir de artik 16 takim kaldi riyilikci: hepiniz hoˆ geldiniz, kabexnuf: merhabalar herkese nafiz: hoˆ geldiniz ˆ vˆ nˆ, Koray, iyilikˆ i ovncylmz: Kusadasi gunun surprizini yapip Istanbul-1 takimi Noname i yendi riyilikci: herkese merhaba, belki ileride baˆ ka arkadaˆ larˆ mˆ z da bize katˆ labilir ama ˆ u an iˆ in Mustafa Tokay ve ben sizlere bilgi vermeye ˆ alˆ ˆ acaˆ ˆ z tokay1975: selamlar tokay1975: kg uzun suredir birlikte oynuyolar db ise bricte yeni diiler ama partnerlikleri yeni thommos: Hi all..p caitlin: hi folks shevek: here we are, 13 imps to catch up (will try to be impartial : ) nafiz1: ˆ vˆ nc birazdan katilacak marlowepi: as expected so far..p barbyh: hey Marshall - 3 -

4 mariner1: both rooms are starting with board 1 so we will see results as we go snorris: not likely wilkinsona: well lets hope for more excitment this match Walddk4: So the score was adjusted to 2 XX down 4 = 2200 snorris: hi all idblu: S is Brazilian internationalist Diego Brenner cindy: hi all wilkinsona: Hi everyone xenya: This is Part 1 of a semifinal match athene: 4 might be reached athene: and should go down, losing AQ A A ahollan1: hello - Fred, Joe, Michael idblu: Looks like the Chineses Women are the cinderella team at the tourney :) idblu: And they have also played stupendous.. ahollan1: for convention cards of players - check out: and santyclz: Good hand for garbage stayman. idblu: pass anything :) xenya: Japan Open have a substantial lead China Women, but there are 32 boards ahead eccone: alert ne acep? eccone: hmm ovncylmz: kuzey guney zayif nt oynuyor deniz_t: siz de hg niz ovncylmz: Bodrum da Mersin Bˆ B yi yenerek bu tura geldi ovncylmz: Diger 14takimsa: mcarroll: Morning Hans, Vladimir..1 xenya: The other 2 teams are Australia and Chinese Women xenya: strong from E ovncylmz: eccone: Herkese selamlar deniz_t: hg niz eymen arkadaˆ sybarra: we will get names as soon as operator has time to put them in..p wilkinsona: Unfortunately Ian is trying to be with us, but "gagged" at the moment sharkey: suit may "disappear" ralfwil: Had anyone of you opened on N? werge: Yoy have problems in 3 NT - East is somehow endplayed... wilkinsona: so the Hacket team came back to win from 40-0 down xenya: Hello Martin athene: but i think even with 13 imps to make up, bidding game wld be aggressive athene: 3 will be a 3-card limit raise, i guess shevek: fit showing jump maybe? yo_yo: it s a strong Australian team Klinger and Delmonte are very well known yo_yo: I dont know the other 2 but surely well known also sharkey: Would anyone open the East hand 1? athene: east has the sort of hand that can be very aggressive facing 4-card spade support but less so facing only 3 athene: weak trumps and possibility of getting forced in hearts yo_yo: clubs are where my points are, yes i would shevek: absolutely an opening hand ahollan1: but EW weren t part of the team in 2008, so we ll have to guess what they re doing Walddk5: Your commentators are Geoffrey Wolfarth, Jos Jacobs, Mark Horton and Kath Nelson aruf: herkese gˆ naydˆ n ovncylmz: dogu bati polish club tarzi bir sistem barbyh: par mcarroll: Now thats what I call a heavyweight overcall - after a featherlight opening! wilkinsona: strong club to start cindy: lead i think Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Yokohama in Japan for the 14th NEC Cup. Quarter-finals, two segments of 16 boards. This is the first ahollan1: welcome to first set of knockout phase of 2009 NEC b_eymen: selamlar marlowepi: not an ideal start, but shouldnt matter..p barbyh: normal sequence snorris: if n shows life then not snorris: :) fabsayc: hi folks cindy: i just see 6 tricks sybarra: hi cindy cindy: hi shirley :) bg: normal contract probably off one two tricks in three suits plus spade ace thommos: assume X is for Takeout mpny: Hackett will open 1H which will make reaching 4H routine idblu: I think S and E would like to be somewhere else at this moment in time:) - 4 -

5 sybarra2: Operator, I have told E name is WangWenfei Walddk5: But since they started 5 mins early, they are not all here yet ovncylmz: Izmir Buyuksehir Belediyesi Beyaz takimi grubun seribasi takimi, Nafiz Zorlu, Salvador Assael, Ozgur Bakan, Mert Bilgen, Bulent Aslan, Ibrahim Mumcuoglu kadrodaki oyuncular riyilikci: herkese selam, yorumcu arkadaˆ ˆ m Zafer ˆ engˆ ler ve ben sizlere yardˆ mcˆ olmaya ˆ alˆ ˆ acaˆ ˆ z sengulerz: mrb Rahmi, mrb arkadaˆ lar ovncylmz: Deniz, Valentino, Burdur, Prosan, Ekˆ i, ˆ zmir Bˆ B Beyaz, Yilankiran, Jr. Yilankiran, Epsilon Bornova, Isparta Briˆ, Varoˆ lu, Zabunoˆ lu ve Sarp ovncylmz: Herkese merhabalar, Turkiye Kis 4lu Finallerinde ceyrek finale gelindi ovncylmz: ˆ ki Yˆ lankˆ ran takiminin mucadelesini birlikte izleyecegiz exerdar: selamlar:) mariner1: contract in Open is 5 DBL..2 snorris: no 3 nt now I guess sharkey: gd morning Mike mpny: good morning mpny: or late nite here sharkey: 4 makeable here? Walddk4: Commentators are Al, Ed, Joe and Martin santyclz: Hi folks. werge: 3 look surprising? idblu: re all :) vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 riyilikci: teknik bir aksaklˆ k nedeniyle geciktik, ˆ zˆ r dileriz sharkey: 2 rather timid?..p snorris: in my system I open 2 nt snorris: give it 3..the law.. snorris: 3 wilkinsona: Hi Martin idblu: W recently won a North Ameruican championship at the recent nationals playing with Steve Katz I believe idblu: I see The Netherlands was in 1st prior to the last match...so these 2 must be the leaders or very close to the top of the standings sharkey: real late mike? mpny: yes it is ahollan1: IF EW using same convention card as 2007 Bermuda Bowl -- we ll see some NT openers [fav 1/2/3] caitlin: Hi folks:) othered1: Hi, everyone caitlin: hi Ed ahollan1: according to CC west s balancing NT was supposed to be (12)13-15 ahollan1: evening Ed, Joe, Caitlin caitlin: is homepage ahollan1: and Martin! othered1: west may not play south for the 6- count caitlin: hi Joe and Al:) caitlin: and Martin ahollan1: well, there s 6 count and there s the South hand othered1: Do we know if north s 1 is a limited opening? ahollan1: J looks like normal play -- then either or [probably ] caitlin: 8 teams have qualified for quarter finals these teams 4th-5th respectively and between 4th- 8 teams only 5 VP difference athene: opening 1 with 5-5 in the blacks can certainly lead to a much smoother auction if partner has a good hand santyclz: Fearless. ahollan1: NS 1N= /2/3 not-vul otherwise (14)15-17 sybarra2: when operator gets a chance, will make changes I am sure roswolf: well n/s might bid the slam herehere but eccone: gˆ neyin agresif 4 basˆ na iˆ aˆ tˆ gibi eccone: 3 denilse rakip 4 zor der heralde eccone: batˆ demesse demezˆ ler eccone: ˆ imdi mecbur kaldˆ arigun: turnuva ile detay bilgilere, sonuclar, butler siralama, bilgilere /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 riyilikci: oynayan yere geˆ emese iˆ ler kolay olacaktˆ. wilkinsona: strangley, south sold out to 3 spades OR..2N othered1: So west will bid her hand out in natural order, rather than first sybarra: and I am looking for which Hackett this is mpny: the auction also made it likely to guess D athene: but most people these days prefer to get - 5 -

6 their major in yo_yo: for those who like to picture the players here is a link for delmonte: /TOURN/Bermuda.00/vugraph/players/profiles/ 0162.html shevek: at this vulnerability they re not very keen eccone: baya sharkey: That s a popular Scandinavian convention - 2 NT = 55 in minors < opening..p snorris: 3 showing 5 idblu: Hi Cindy, Tony idblu: change that to Ralph Katz :) irwinbo: it looks like no game makes cindy: W wont let pd off the hook mdgraham: err... roswolf: :) ovncylmz: Diyarbakir Diski elimdeki bilgilere gore Diyarbakir 3.su olarak katilma hakki elde etmis. M. Serif Camci, Ekrem Ozcikan, Baki Demirhan, Tahir Demirhan, Zana Akay ve Besir... ovncylmz: Ekinci den olusuyor kadrolari deniz_t: gˆ zel kontrat vugraphzkg: tkˆ m kadrolarˆ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ m kadrolarˆ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz sengulerz: 1nt gf miˆ frankaus: the play will not be challenging..3n snorris: 5 then mcarroll: hard to see what else snorris: no 3nt snorris: I presime snorris: presume ralfwil: I don t like the D from E sharkey: ouch caitlin: does anyone know what happened with the appeal? ahollan1: I don t have CC for any of the China Evertrust partnerships :( but a good bet that they re part of the Precision throng caitlin: would think so and I have yet to find cc s santyclz: Rather a surprise on trick 1. othered1: might be right to bid with the south hand, then, as Ew could have game fabsayc: hi all, not sure why he did not play spade jack caitlin: will cost santyclz: I can only guess he didn t read it as 4th best. Many people would lead the 10 from that holding. othered1: maybe playing north for A109xx(x) ahollan1: even if North s lead conventionally from A109xx or Q109xx -- when is it wrong to play!j? othered1: Depending on what NS lead from that holding idblu: 10 makes a nice entry to the s ahollan1: over weak NT --- DBL of Stayman = GOOD HAND [vs Strong NT - better to show or something conventional] arigun: linkinden ulasabilirsiniz ovncylmz: Gunaydin herkese kabexnuf: merhabalar ovncylmz: Turkiye Kis Dortlu Finalleri Grup Maclari 4. Tur maci ovncylmz: Kuzey Guney ust duzey artifisyel bir sistem oynamaktalar, guzel bir mac izleyecegimizden eminim aruf: J grubunun kritik maclarˆ ndan birini seyrediyoruz dadim: slm nafiz: hoˆ geldin irfan eccone: declaran oynadˆ gˆ ndagˆ neyin 10 lu vermesi lazˆ m arigun: maˆ sonuˆ larˆ /tbricfed/teams_event.php?event=172&stage=369 sybarra: heard the screach of brakes..p marlowepi: S needs to bid 4S here snorris: well done ralfwil: Hello again! mcarroll: 3NT I mean werge: 10 of now,pls! wilkinsona: doubtless game forcing now ralfwil: which resulted in a fair punishment thommos: lucky South didn t X for t/o sybarra: hello all aruf: Burdur 3 maˆ ta 75 vp topladˆ dadim: saolun riyilikci: herkese gˆ naydˆ n riyilikci: bu maˆ ˆ n VG saati BBOya yanlˆ ˆ iletilmiˆ, ama bu devre sonunda turnuva salonunu deˆ iˆ tireceˆ imiz iˆ in devreyi ˆ ne almˆ ˆ tˆ k Walddk4: Morning Snorri and Ralf..p ralfwil: hello again! mcarroll: Yes an amazing set - 2 grand slams in a row and lots of swing boards sybarra: Paul H. I am told - 6 -

7 ahollan1: and if 4th best [ugh] then Rule of 11 would make J automatic sharkey: sensible stop NV - E may have bid game VUL due to potential payoff shevek: not sure he ll make this sharkey: u read my mind Nicoleta:) athene: K now? ahollan1: the other Chinese Women were playing Precision - so until proven otherwise, let s assume EW also big ers eccone: J10 sek gibi yane eccone: kalˆ rsa deniz_t: :) riyilikci: aˆ ˆ k kart gˆ rˆ p kuzeyin as piki ˆ ekmesini ˆ nermek bizim iˆ in kolay marlowepi: even though 3S is forcing, N might think that it suggests alternatives to the eventual 4S that S would bid..p cindy: hi :) ralfwil: My bid on E is 4 werge: But the best board in this tournament was by far 6 one down - and 7 making at the other table. And declarer in 6 played perfectly... werge: Yesterday marlowepi: buddy? werge: -lead = expensive mcarroll: The 1 opening and aggressive auction by NS keeps EW out of a making 4? roswolf: definitely bid the slam Walddk5: Good morning to Jos Jacobs roswolf: hi jos josj: hi Roland and Geoffrey :) josj: good to see a probably tense final session coming up Walddk5: and good morning to Mark Horton arigun: herkese merhaba aruf: Deniz takˆ mˆ ise 59 vp ile 3. sˆ rada vulkan: Aydoˆ dular kuvvetli trefli, revers canape oynuyorlar sengulerz: Q ve 10 lu D da olunca 5 tane ve 3 tane ˆ ekilince double sqz yapˆ p +1 olacak arigun: Hoˆ geldin Nafiz abi marlowepi: welcome cindy.. 2 sybarra: hi cindy sharkey: The "Happy Tea" off to a flyinf start as 5 likely to make mcarroll: Hi Ralf cindy: S getting nervous about being endplayed i guess cindy: thinking of unblocking to avoid it marlowepi: GF hands usually7 don;t idblu: appears to off 2 1 and 1 cindy: welcome marshall marlowepi: hi all wilkinsona: tricky lead ralfwil: E has a minimum for 1nt thommos: 2 was making, but how many down is is 3 caitlin: 5 X will yield a nice score for N-S a half Canadian/half U.S. team caitlin: Mori is originally from Tokyo so has advantage of speaking language xenya: 4 is easy -- NS had a profitable save available vbman: hi all MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz MolvaM: tolga ˆ zbay 5-4 majˆ rˆ olan 6-7 puanlˆ k 1 el gˆ sterdi ovncylmz: Selam herkese MolvaM: cem altan ise 3 pik diyerek kararˆ orta ˆ ˆ na bˆ raktˆ vugraphzkg: slm ekrem hoˆ geldin snorris: dont know about 2 nt in Scandinavia but in my version it is a kind of multi, covering some strong versions.. A sharkey: In Norway usually weak 55 hand snorris: ok wilkinsona: even 12 tricks possible.. wilkinsona:..and a good choice it seems sharkey: ok - undo caitlin: sorry just put on right glasses:) caitlin: lol chessmaste: From a sunny Bath Walddk5: My bath is wet arigun: bu yil ankara kis 4lu kupasi degisik bir formatta oynaniyor aruf: bizim grup olduˆ u iˆ in bizide ilgilendiren bir maˆ MolvaM: muhtemelen 3 pik de batacaktˆ zaten ovncylmz: agresif zonlar serisi devam ediyor galiba:) ovncylmz: kis 4lu grup elemeleri hep boyle midir murat abi? ne diyorsun? arigun: iyi aksamlar eccone: j10x ten 10 vermenin hic bi kaybˆ yok belki yanˆ ltˆ labilir riyilikci: gene de ˆ ekmesi daha iyi bir oyun ama kaˆ kiˆ i ˆ eker asˆ bilmem exerdar: zor bi 3nt le baˆ ladˆ oyun ralfwil: now 12 tricks.. 6 wilkinsona: missed that one...rolands got me on split shifts snorris: where south fell asleep? - 7 -

8 idblu: safe lead, gives nothing away santyclz: The other table had a normal 2/1 auction to the unenviable 2. ahollan1: but ed -- which holding can north have where it is EVER right to play small from dummy? ovncylmz: Iste heyecan dolu baslayis:) aruf: umarˆ z herkes seyirden keyf alˆ r aruf: Deniz takˆ mˆ iˆ in kˆ tˆ bir baˆ langˆ ˆ MolvaM: eee kimse bu kadar yolu partskor oynamaya gelmedi ya :) snorris: right.. 9 sharkey: 11 IMPs here fabsayc: i wonder what 3 meant wilkinsona: a nice auction to a sound contract then cindy: another decision cindy: to duck or not to duck that is the question ralfwil: how many of you should double on E? yo_yo: good morning from a frosty Manchester xenya: interesting hand -- 4 looks very close for EW werge: They sacrifice against their olwn 4... xenya: :) ralfwil: Now W can make 5 if N continues with MolvaM: izmirde yapˆ lan kˆ ˆ 4lˆ takˆ mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ finalleri vugraphzhn: 1st and 3rd position here, we will try to get scores from Sjˆ berg-bergstrˆ m who is second placed... 2 ralfwil: But why not a lead? a lead is missing a tempo wilkinsona: a couple of clubs can be ruffed for 11 tricks werge: Yes othered1: a109xxx fabsayc: A109xx playing small, suit blocked caitlin: yes go to to see open room caitlin: has to set up hearts but W will play spades caitlin: down one ovncylmz: harikulade:) thommos: and 9 switch.. 6 othered1: or Q109xxx josj: hi Mark :) roswolf: sipping champagne as well i suppose mark chessmaste: Good morning Jos! ovncylmz: kuzey guney natural 5li major, 2 multiden olusan bir sisteme sahip fabsayc: ruffing spades is easier.. J bg: duck is correct declarer may only have three dia cindy: now a club would be good? snorris: when w finessed s ralfwil: lucku split! K98 ralfwil: lucky sharkey: Defence not missing a beat here ahollan1: after A not taken early - declarer will get last repreive when J falls chessmaste: de reigeur on Valentines Day josj: cold and sunny here as well Walddk5: Good morning to Kath Nelson Walddk5: Now they are all here snorris: awful lead.. 5 xenya: perhaps 4 can be defeated by repeated leads though ahollan1: sorry Fred already said that :( xenya: 3N looks a reasonable contract here -- actually an easy make.. 8 sybarra: tough to time all the finesses you need here chessmaste: The au pair has just opened the Krug Rosˆ' yo_yo: good morning from Manchester deniz_t: iyi akˆ amlar arigˆ n riyilikci: Valentino ve Yˆ lankˆ ran takˆ mlar ˆ rakipleri ˆ ekildiˆ i iˆ in ilk ˆ eyrek finalistler oldular daman: not so sure about easy to make.. 3 fabsayc: hard to see how this was allowed to make santyclz: Bears repeating. josj: lol roswolf: hi kath josj: hi Kath aruf: batˆ agresif baˆ ladˆ exerdar: karolya devam ederse yapacak gibi xenya: admittedly, on a fortunate lie.. A sybarra: not so sure its "easy make" either daman: double dummy male vugraphzhn: Fredin in the tank snorris: openers prime suit wilkinsona: sorry I meant spades of course snorris: more luck idblu: from the grave:) thommos: this should now make 8 werge: The problem is, that a double from West is take-out - and you are caught Walddk4: for BBO-TV. Watch all 4 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No - 8 -

9 download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don t.... Walddk4: Open one browser window per table athene: if he led the A, he was threatening to reach dummy in clubs and throw his diamonds on the QJ athene: so south might have cashed the A but that wld kill the entry for the club ruff chessmaste: Solid slam bidding eccone: db nin iyi eli eccone: iyi aksamlaer eccone: wc ralfwil: hi Martin!.. 9 ralfwil: needs to play before.. 4 sybarra: needs to play clubs now sybarra: sorry for the echo Ralf panja: hi all ralfwil: Hello Panja mcarroll: hi snorris: south thinking about the J of s? snorris: might be right against another layout panja: a small and then shift by North would lead to some interesting situation ralfwil: Agree with a small ahollan1: Q109xx possible, but pass from south holding A very unlikely -- so maybe playing for stiff or doubleton Q is right caitlin: 4 also down one on lead but likely get club lead athene: so it wld be a strange complicated sort of scissors coup santyclz: Suit preference discard by e, suggesting strength. arigun: toplam 82 takimin katilimi ile yapilan turnuava 80 takimin 10 grupta mucadelesi ile round robin olarak basladi MolvaM: bugˆ n baˆ ladˆ dadim: ovunc a takˆ mˆ nˆ n sistemi tam olarak nedir 1 aˆ ˆ ˆ larˆ ve 2ler ovncylmz: KG 1nt ovncylmz: 2 multi kabexnuf: merhabalar ovncylmz: 2kor/pik 5li ovncylmz: acar ele kadar ovncylmz: :) ovncylmz: 1c uzerine transferleri oynuyorlar dadim: a takˆ mˆ aydˆ ndan geldi vugraphzkg: teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg: maˆ sonuˆ larˆ ve butler sonuˆ larˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz ovncylmz: 4.maclar girildi mi? panja: perhaps, W will have to go up with a to block... 3 b_eymen: sybarra: Found the teams roster, it is Paul Hackett.. T santyclz: n-s seem to be playing udca. Walddk4: Hello Vladimir and Martin riyilikci: ankara derbisi ile karˆ ˆ nˆ zdayˆ z mdgraham: It would seem that South thought that 3 would be forcing after the 2 cue - but in that case, 3 would also be forcing (I assume).. Q marlowepi: i am not sure what the advantage might be of playing a third heart.. 3 shevek: oops mcarroll: Morning Vladimir b_eymen: iyi defans eccone: claim ralfwil: bad defence!.. 7 idblu: will always lose 2 unless AQ alone on his left ahollan1: sorry that should have been Q109xx NOT possible eccone: takˆ mlarˆ tanˆ yormuyuz? eccone: ˆ imdi declaranˆ n kˆ cˆ k oynamaktan baska caresi kalmadˆ wilkinsona: so in trying to defeat this contract active defence makes declarers life easy.. 5 fabsayc: but running the spades was also poor technique athene: sorry if declarer led the K i mean not the A arigun: eleme turlarinda gruplarindan ilk 3 sirayi alan takimlar knock out turuna devam edecek eccone: ˆ mdgraham: and, let s face it, AKJ876 may be worth a mention.. K othered1: still not making this with another xenya: but 5 is extremely costly yo_yo: same contract in OR MolvaM: isimler ve bayraklar lˆ tfennnn mpank61: slm ovncylmz: dogu batinin ise modifiye 5li major, nt ve multi oynadiklarini soyleyebiliriz. Ayrica NT ye karsi suction ile defans yapiyorlarmis sybarra: getting easier.. A cindy: down 2 in open irwinbo: still a good game to bid and it should be replicated in the other room ralfwil: and a nice defence werge: This will bring a morning-score xenya: -800 to be exact - 9 -

10 josj: that s what one would expect.. 2 arigun: belki sabah magmurlugu belki vugraph stresi, normalde cokda fazlasi olmayan bir el, rakip NT acmis cevapcisi kompertisyon yapacak puani var, ortagin fit ve puan olmadigi belli... arigun: birakmasi lazim muhakkak ralfwil: This is one of the weaknesses, allowing a 5-card major in a nt-opening.. 5 werge: werge: 800 shevek: defence erred here yo_yo: here s a nice pic of Fruewirth: Fruewirth.jpg athene: south didn t visualise declarer with all those clubs MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ rˆ mˆ zden isimleri girmesini rica edelim deniz_t: seni duymadˆ capycino eymen kardeˆ im:) arigun: herkese merhaba yo_yo: ty elmer for that.. J shevek: images/robert-fruewirth.jpg athene: this is a typical example of why people open 1 rather than 1 :) athene: you are most likely to play spades most of the time, and often you get an extra trick from concealing the side suit sharkey: yes - nowadays minor suits are almost ignored arigun: ankara-1 ve istanbul-1 takimlari turnuvaya 32 takimlik knock-out turundan diretk olarak baslayaca b_eymen: slm hg wilkinsona: Even if East bids more strongly in spades, surely NS would go on in diamonds...dont really understand south selling out in OR.. 8 ahollan1: i m not sure what the appeal was all about - or who was involved, but posted standings after swiss qualifying had China Evertrust 5th and Japan Open 4th caitlin: yes sengulerz: 2 tur ˆ de ˆ ekince iˆ lem tamam idblu: ready to claim... 9 vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 riyilikci: herkese selam, vulkan: mert ˆ akmamakta ˆ srar etti fakat defans daha ˆ srarcˆ ˆ ˆ kˆ p onu kˆ saltt ˆ.. K tokay1975: selamlar sybarra: ok so "easy make" LOL.. 6 ralfwil: I was a little bit quicker on the keyboard vugraphzhn: Same result at Sjˆ berg-bergstrˆ m table b_eymen: cakˆ lsa b_eymen: daha iyi kabexnuf: 800 ovncylmz: 2nt alerti ile ilgili bir problem olabilir mi cengiz abi? ralfwil: The only way was to rise with A and play a.. Q werge: North should have discarded a - not a, but when he did, it s very bad play from S to return a... caitlin: I think appeal lost whatever/whomever as same 8 in quarter finals kabexnuf: en son 1. ve 2. takˆ mlardˆ grupta, son turdan sonra deˆ iˆ ti mi acaba ovncylmz: a takimi sabahki macini kaybetti diye duydum thommos: oops.. T wilkinsona: the 9 falling means idblu: i ll bet he ruffed :) thommos: yes vugraphzhq: Claim bofore CJ sorry idblu: np :) eccone: anlamasˆ daha ˆ nemli :) b_eymen: yere.. 4 aruf: Fikret abi gˆ zel shift etti ve 800 ˆ haketti ovncylmz: murat abi nerde:) deniz_t: :) vugraphzkg: teams_event.php?event=172&stage=368 vugraphzkg: maˆ sonuˆ larˆ ve butler sonuˆ larˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz idblu: "her" left.. 2 b_eymen: ele karo kup arigun: diger masada da firtinali bir baslangic oldu :).. 5 caitlin: in open room West underled A.. K.. 8 sybarra: forgot to beat it in the other room.. 7 ovncylmz: bu grupta ayrica gecen senenin turkiye 2.si zobu var aruf: 1100 e yolculuk var :).. Q ovncylmz: ancak iyi bir baslangic yapamadilar wilkinsona: just taking a safe fabsayc: tangled things wilkinsona:...but may lose an imp.. J

11 marlowepi: if not for the spade lead taking an entry out of dummy, E could survive the bad trump break by eloping with his small trumps if the D ace were onside.. J marlowepi: which the 3C bid suggests is the case.. 6 ovncylmz: rakip minorler demisken 3 demek cok normal degil gibi geldi MolvaM: seyircilerimizden nur kumkale: Ahmet k ˆ ker ile Bora Er in ist 2 liyi kazandˆ ktan sonra ellerine kaˆ ˆ t almadˆ klarˆ nˆ sˆ ylˆ yor. bakalˆ m ne olacak :).. T eccone: direkt.. 7 Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: YILANKIRAN - 10 EW: JR. YILANKIRAN 1 1 o 3N S c 3N S A 4 3 K Q J A K Q K Q5 W N S E K A J107 6 A Q J 6 2 J N: O. SAKRAK W: E. KAYA Open E: F. KEPEKCI S: Y. ATABEY W N E S p 1 p 1 p 2 p 2 p 2N p 3N p p p #1 W:: J,Q,3,4 #2 N:: Q,4,6,2 #3 N:: K, 6, 7,3 #4 N:: T,Q,K,A #5 W:: K,A,3,7 #6 N:: K,2,6,T #7 N:: 5,8,A,

12 Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: JR. YILANKIRAN 1 1 EW: YILANKIRAN - 10 o 3N S c 3N S A 4 3 K Q J A K Q K Q5 W N S E K A J107 6 A Q J 6 2 J N: O.Kanlˆ W: G.Yˆ lmaz Closed E: O.Gur S: ˆ.Ayaz W N E S p 1 p 1 p 2 p 2 p 2N p 3N p p p #1 W:: 3,5,J,K #2 S:: 6,3,Q,4 #3 N:: K, 6, 7,5 #4 N:: K,3,4,J #5 N:: Q,2,6,T #6 N:: 5,8,A, 8 #7 S:: A,9, 2, 2 #8 S:: J,2, 4,3 #9 S:: T,8, 9, 6 #10 S:: 7,Q,A, marlowepi: W bid 5S in a flash. 6S is a gamble, obviously not to everyone s taste. but E s single most probable total of major suit cards is 9, so with so many minor suit values working, the... K Q.. A.. T..p..1..p..1..p..2..p..2..p..2N..p..3N..p..p..p.. J.. Q Q K T.. Q.. K.. A.. K.. A K T A marlowepi: slam is a reasonable gamble. 5S is the safe bid of course marlowepi: personally i think the game would be greatly improved if bidding and making 5M paid more than 4M with an overtrick snorris: very strange, n opened 1!! wilkinsona:...so a happy start for NS panja: 4 for NW here... panja: NS even snorris: there are many 11 counts here Werge any opening bids? sybarra: 2 imps sybarra: website for tourney werge: One more 7 NT... wilkinsona: well Im not sure about that... but we hoped for more action snorris: another weakness is the inability of not being able to inviting slam in minor idblu: a push as suggested thommos: :) ralfwil: For me a D from W is for penalty and 2nt is forcing for one round sharkey: yes - not sure I understand S bidding yo_yo: the redouble looked odd to me caitlin: this is why I tell my students NOT to underlead Aces vs suit contracts:) yo_yo: now we need pics of the chinese ladies anyone oblige? ahollan1: well last time i held 23 and heard LHO open 1N -- we didn t find a making game :) xenya: note that 4 would fail if played by W or if N could geta lead early -- then lead beats the contract xenya: hello Roland xenya: and Martin mcarroll: Hi Roland roswolf: this could be trappy for n/s nafiz1: hg Akgun akgun: hi all eccone: selam reha vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 akgun: mrb Eymen eccone: pas pasa batˆ 5 acar eccone: heralde vugraphzkg: takˆ m kadrolarˆ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz MolvaM: genellikle ilk 3 bordda ˆ sˆ nˆ rlar bu tˆ r ˆ iftler vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 eccone: capycino bbo nicki galiba vugraphzkg: takˆ m kadrolarˆ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz riyilikci: selamlar, Tˆ rkiye Dˆ rtlˆ 1/32 maˆ

13 larˆ oynanmakta vugraphzkg: option=com_content&view=article&id=125:ki- doertlue-takimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu&itemid=99 vugraphzkg: takˆ m kadrolarˆ ve konvansyon kartlarˆ iˆ in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz sengulerz: ilk elde nasˆ l oynanacaˆ ˆ nˆ tutturamadˆ m:) eccone: pek bi sessiz buralar frankaus: 3 by W or is it tooo god at these colours..p marlowepi: with stiff S it is important to preempt barbyh: not a bad idea snorris: 1? snorris: well.. werge: Yes - and bad 11 s... sybarra: ralfwil: it s very difficult to find a 6-3 fit in a minor, like this yo_yo: was he going to double opps? mdgraham: perhaps it was so he could set up a force... santyclz: Was it a strong nt? idblu: was it wk or str NT? MolvaM: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili detaylara kanalˆ ile ulaˆ abilirsiniz arigun: com_content&view=article&id=125:ki-doertluetakimlar-ampyonasi&catid=50: sezonu &Itemid=99 eccone: sistem mi oynuyolar gˆ ney? akgun: evet UTR denilen degisik bir sistemin modifiye edilmis halini oynuyorlar yakop: slm herkese tokay1975: selam riyilikci: hg ˆ smail exerdar: yˆ lankˆ ran derbisinde daha gol sesi ˆ ˆ kmadˆ ondandˆ r:) wilkinsona: well +2?..1 snorris: dont think so sybarra: vulkan: 4 DB marlowepi: we could call it a "small schlemiel"..p werge: This should be an easy bid for N werge: 4 othered1: Do we know NS s NT range? sharkey: but then 2 wudnt be forcing after Dbl? yo_yo: they will be happy to win 3 imps though mpny: the XX must have showed a good hand. if 3H was not forcing, I do not know how one would force josj: 4 will be made but it might be missed here or there eccone: hmm eccone:? eccone: nat veya diye biˆ iy mi? ovncylmz: Kuzey Guneyin sistemi yalniz birakilirsa daha cok problem cikacagina inaniyorum ben:) nafiz: hoˆ geldin ogoksel kabexnuf: KG zayˆ f nt oynuyor ogoksel: herkese merhabalarr ovncylmz: 1 uzerine de transfer oynuyorlar, selam ozgur kabexnuf: merhaba ozgur abi yakop: tokay izmire gidemedin ama uzulme biˆ ey yokmuˆ ben baktˆ m :) tokay1975: :))) yakop: hb ralfwil: I prefer D on S before 1 on that poor suit and I have a 3-card..1 snorris: 1 overbid snorris:?? ralfwil: only 1 on a 7-card suit? snorris: so how many? 3? wilkinsona: its forcing mcarroll: Ron Klinger has long been an advocate of 4 card overcalls snorris: I would idblu: that was quick and dirty werge: For me too yakop: bircdanla huseyin cok agresif oynuyolar ( normalde) bakalˆ m ˆ imdi ne yapacaklar yakop: bu el bayaa konuˆ ulur tokay1975: diger ekipde tam tersi gayet muhafazakar mariner1: ny Japanese advisor was in wrong room, he was in Open, so our EW are not..p mariner1: women... mariner1: my snorris: not in my book snorris: I bid werge: Nosacrifice aganist 4 Q s - looks lihe 1400 werge: 4 ralfwil: And What s on? Ov course 4 on N! any objection? fabsayc: not a great 6NT, but will make wilkinsona: lots of tricks NS as the cards lie cindy: 4 should be ok snorris: 6 nt is the contract to be in snorris: here wilkinsona: Ron s to blame for this craze is he? snorris: 1 might show

14 mpny: no, 2D would almost certainly not be forcing ralfwil: an easy 3nt santyclz: This hand should tell us if e-w are playing precision, w will probably rebid 3 if so. roswolf: however the favorable heart lie is their salvation arigun: katilan tum takimlarin, turnuva ile bilgilerin, ciftlerin konvansiyon kartlari vs bilgilere TBF sayfas b_eymen: ewet sorunsuz eccone: ˆ leymis yakop: bircana gol ˆ ansˆ geldi 7 bile diyebilirler riyilikci: Avcˆ oˆ lu-ˆ ztˆ rk bir Polish Club sistemi oynuyorlar eccone: 4 panja: is this voluntary 3 likely to be interpreted as strong?..2 ralfwil: Good morning Kath, Mike, Carl andmichael santyclz: Precision 2 s. 6+ s or 5+ and a 4 card major. ogoksel: yazˆ mlar sˆ rasˆ nda sanˆ rˆ m blackeagle alackeagle olarak yazˆ lmˆ ˆ ovncylmz: evet ilk 4boardda 0.08 imp/board oynamislar:) kotu bi baslangic degil uzun suredir eline kagit almamis bir cift icin:p ovncylmz: ama il elemelerinde kim oynadi:) MolvaM: batˆ olsanˆ z ne derdiniz ˆ imdi? arigun: 3 empassdan bir tanesi geciyor 5 olacak denirse Walddk2: plugins/competition/competition.php?id Results A-Final..p sybarra: can E squeak this one by? sharkey: Looks like 4 may make, but declarer has to make the right choices fabsayc: hi ed othered1: Looks like forcing Stayman, or maybe not othered1: Hi, Martin! snorris: 5+ that is cindy: is this good enough for resp dbl? idblu: not I vul irwinbo: i wouldn t double with brenner;s hand wou;d you? marlowepi: not me at these colors cindy: no marlowepi: but i wouldn;t hesitate either cindy: just checkin :) marlowepi: we just chicken too idblu: N shld be bid out cindy: checkin chickens idblu: 3 s/b 123 stop wilkinsona: East may move here though sharkey: But cannot see returnhaving any purpose ahollan1: a Precision player MIGHT rebid but the quality of the suit may deter idblu: no excuse for E to bid on here arigun: sayfasindan ulasabilirsiniz MolvaM: oooooo MolvaM: 3 gayet makul kontrat MolvaM: ama kuzey 1 daha konuˆ mak isteyebilir riyilikci: dengeli, veya trefller veya 17+ herhangi el yakop: 2 h ne acaba yakop: klasik 6 h baraj eli riyilikci: CC zayˆ f kˆ rler diyor yakop: 6 deyip haneye yazacaksˆ n Walddk2: plugins/competition/competition.php?id Results B-Final..2 Walddk2: Last 5 boards of the tournament snorris: 3 :) wilkinsona: 1 heart overcall misses the sac in diamonds thommos: and successful bg: Hi Fred/Ian thommos: hi Bruce vugraphzkg: cok dusundu ama konusmadˆ ovncylmz: kenancim hakem heyetinden istedigimiz, son tur oncesi capraz tablo pdf i vardi:) yakop: baraj otomatik olur marlowepi: S may be worried about m,issing a slam, will soon find out he is too high in game..p mariner1: so our W is male and out E is a woman mariner1: our marlowepi: wow snorris: from bad to worse cindy: 3N not so good ralfwil: and only 3? snorris: 4 si good but south will probably not raise idblu: Hi Bruce, Ian :) sybarra: hi Bruce yo_yo: hi there sharkey: Dbl then 3 which shud be forcing caitlin: too high will be down MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ rlerimizden isimleri girmesini tekrar rica edelim bu arada eccone: kuzeyin konusmamasˆ ilginˆ oldu MolvaM: bu arada kuzey rakibin zon kaˆ ˆ rmˆ ˆ olabileceˆ ini de dˆ ˆ ˆ nmˆ ˆ tˆ r muhtemelen

15 ovncylmz: daha ancak 5.tur sonuclarini gorebiliyoruz:) yakop: piki dogru taraftan soylediler riyilikci: KG 1 yu 4+ 1Majrˆ oynuyorlar yakop: bu tip maclarda bu zon durumunda rakip batsa bile ˆ ilem riske edilmez baraj yapˆ lˆ r marlowepi: is this round board a match?..2n panja: on a non lead...11 tricks i guess bg: 4 spades tough with heart lead 3nt also tough with heart lead cindy: lead unlikely vs 4 though bg: declarer has to duck first round rule of 7 with six cards subtract from 7 and get one therefore duck first round cindy: yes should find it sybarra: is it rule of 7 or 11? bg: can get 3 spades 3 dia two clubs and one heart wilkinsona:..judges well to pass marlowepi: not much for E to do with such limited stoppage in ajors and no diamond honor ralfwil: Curious from E Partner has opened and he has 11 HP sharkey: gd morning Ralf werge: Morning sharkey: and Hans ahollan1: too right -- the power of limited opening 1, saves East from a painful guess fabsayc: arrgh santyclz: Negative x didn t work out well. idblu: 3N...what did E promise? kabexnuf: nt ye dogu bati attitude cikiyorlar kabexnuf: 1nt ye ne diyorsunuz riyilikci: bu maˆ 16 bordluk 3 devre olarak oynanacak, gelecek devre hangi maˆ ˆ n verilece ˆ ine sonuˆ lara gˆ re karar verilecek riyilikci: KG ekibin bir renk aˆ ˆ ˆ larˆ 14+p ve forsing, 1 dengeli 15+ veya 5+kart, diˆ erleri 5+kart naturel ve dengesiz Walddk2: or 4 remaining now..p cindy: match a board sybarra: no dbl no trbl snorris: 990 werge: Is 1 your chice also - NEVER bid such a suit in defensive situation xenya: so a huge gain for Japan on the very first board idblu: opening bid? yo_yo: now South will have to make a noise but no eccone: yorumlamak zor durumu eccone: :) akgun: KG 3H a kadar yapabiliyordu dadim: 2nt ogoksel: NS artifisyel oynuyor ise bu maˆ artifisyellerin savaˆ ˆ olabilir.ufuk-tayfun ˆ iftide uzun zamandˆ r birlikte sistem oynuyorlar yakop: 6 pik derlerse 7 barajˆ olur mutlaka fabsayc: 3nt looks very conservative..3n othered1: fmust b e and north knows there s no long suit fit. fabsayc: ah, possibly wilkinsona: no nead to sac snorris: 3 sp is too little ralfwil: a 7-card suit after partners opening and also a support? snorris: sounds like just figthing for a partscore werge: The Q shoyld lead to the right bid = 4 mpny: yes, 3D rather than 3H would be F, but he got to the right strain santyclz: Overall in the matches I ve seen the players have been remarkably conservative for juniors. othered1: I don t love opening the north hand with 1N, but it s worked out fine. mcarroll: This should be flat - same contract next door roswolf: well the game is missed josj: it might have been time for a polite raise by S with 2 aces roswolf: i fancy in the other room game will be bid chessmaste: Maybe North should have doubled to show a good overcall, although in my book he had already promised a decent hand with 1 yo_yo: but has North show 15 with a 6 card suit, i dont think so josj: wanna bet Geoffrey?:) riyilikci: gˆ rdˆ ˆ ˆ nˆ z imp ilk devre skoru fahir: herkese iyi seyirler werge: RD...!!!..p cindy: i agree sharkey: Normal 3 NT here - off a couple athene: it looks natural to begin diamonds with small to the J, which won t work athene: oh - declarer doesn t really have time to play on diamonds anyway athene: but there s no possible way to get three spade tricks idblu: they aren t playing the game that got them here arigun: Nezih Kubac, gunaydin hosgeldin ovncylmz: :) eglenceli mac olacak gibi :)

16 sengulerz: hg Fahir sybarra: even now..p snorris: right sharkey: E probably doesnt want to open 2 with 2 aces thus 1 second choice? snorris: I HAVE to bid something in south snorris: it might be my last chanse to bid ralfwil: Yes but, not 1 for me ralfwil: I double on such a hand thommos: pass from west would be a min hand mdgraham: Any regular pair would have their own agreements on what sets up a force and what doesn t - not all pairs play the same yo_yo: this looks a hairy contract mdgraham: the important thing is to be on the same wavelength - and South was on long wave there while North was on medium sharkey: yes - lol - perhaps 3 followed by 3 and 4 ralfwil:!a and a continuation will break the contract ralfwil: A sharkey: Problems here with trumps 4-2 I think sharkey: E will refuse 1st perhaps yo_yo: is it Paul Hackett here or one of his twins? sharkey: 8 tricks if Declarer starts with low ahollan1: NS using standard honor leads; 3rd even/lo odd spot leads -- upside-down count & attitude signals idblu: the China Women have been VERY impressive...in all facets of the game. yo_yo: the ladies bid everything eccone: 1 yapar heralde akgun: +1 gibi duruyor vugraphzkg: batˆ pasˆ gˆ rˆ nce kˆ tˆ hissetmiˆ ti kendini ama yeri gˆ rˆ nce biraz dˆ zeldi arigun: e kaptirirsa batacak riyilikci: 2 aˆ ˆ ˆ larˆ (9) kart arigun: matnikli oyun A yere gidip ele oynamak arigun: rakiplerden herhangi birinde 3 tane varsa 2 e 2 gidiyor ralfwil: 9 tricks with a finess..p roswolf: 9 tricks sure vugraphzhn: Fallenius: small barp, Fredin: So thats what you think? He probably likes the dummy... ralfwil: the 10 was essential sybarra: not sure you try the too early, could go down ralfwil: but N can have a 6-card suit in, so... sybarra: thx all lots of suggestions, sybarra: and all realistic, at the table I would be worried (I think) about taking spade finesse too early snorris: probably snorris: and if they play strong system its almost ok sharkey: NV not to unreasonable I think wilkinsona:..turns out ok, as this can make.. snorris: of course you will win 7 but... ahollan1: North s opening strenthens our guess that they re playing precision [but even that hand seems too weak for 1N] xenya: interesting contract roswolf: perhaps unless you know! josj: :) sure bets are the best roswolf: :) kabexnuf: 3h cok olmadi mi eccone: pasˆ gecince sorunsuz oldugu icin pas atmˆ ak daha iyi gibii riyilikci: 5 pike bile 7 iyi baraj marlowepi: with 3 cards in both unbid suits and opps vul, 2D was a dubious choice.. 3 athene: even if you pick Ax that only gives you two spades mcarroll: very delicate xenya: might require a very careful play by declarer mcarroll: can make but not easy xenya: declarer s prime objective is to establish clubs keeping N off lead tokay1975: bu ataga hemen kozlari oynarsa 6 yapabiliyor arigun: ataktan sonra ler uygun 6 +4 ve 2 as ile 12 love alabilir riyilikci: oldukˆ a iyi bir 6 cl var ovncylmz: rakibi engellemeyi dusunmus olabilir ovncylmz: :) riyilikci: evet ama kˆ r tek exerdar: 3nt sorunsuz bu elde mariner1: EW did have a save here if they found it.. 5 werge: The problem is, that if you bid all henads, where hou "must" bid. you loose snorris: no win mcarroll: Hard to disagree with success, and I hate the final double othered1: 2 likely denying (if they re playing standardish 2-way Stayman) snorris: getting there.. snorris: maybe mpny: paul

17 ralfwil: and perhaps more after a heart continuation yo_yo: for those who dont know Paul (the father) has twin sons, both champions yo_yo: Paul likes to bid sharkey: yes akgun: 1c alert ne olabilirdi acaba 2+c mi? eccone: 6 imp vugraphzkg: tek bile olabilirmiˆ eccone: hmm yakop: agresif dedigimiz cift bile bu eli ˆ ilem diyemedi gecen mac ne demek istedigim anlaˆ ˆ lmˆ ˆ tˆ r heralde tokay1975: ismail senin dedigine gore 6sp deseler 500 yazcaklardi simdi 650 daha iyi ralfwil: The play in ic critical. The right play is now to play A.. J ralfwil: Covers all singleton honours mdgraham: well, it shows what we know gained 3 imps against the 3 contract at the other table ralfwil: I think I have met them in Holland some years ago ralfwil: 10 with a lead and 9 tricks with a lead MolvaM: batˆ daki oyuncunun 3. den 10 puan ile aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ masayˆ biraz karˆ ˆ tˆ rdˆ gibi MolvaM: 3pik sˆ nˆ rda bir kontrat ve batacak gibi duruyor eccone: kup eccone: kup nezihk: gˆ naydˆ n herkese roswolf: :)declarer wasnt!.. K mariner1: Closed is also in 4 here marlowepi: i prefer to save when their game makes fabsayc: they do play strong club, not sure of details, they were on vugraph before caitlin: I prefer the 1NT than East opening 1 at other table which did work but surprising no spade balance sybarra2: ty operator riyilikci: Murat Kazˆ l Yataˆ an, Ertuˆ rul Aygen Yalˆ kavak tan, ˆ lkemiz iˆ in ˆ ok alˆ ˆ ˆ lmˆ ˆ her ˆ ey natˆ rel diye sˆ ylenen bir sistem oynuyorlar ovncylmz: bu turnuvada 2 checkback limitleri oldukca dusuk, bir de 3 yi 3lu kor max oynayanlar var sonucta cindy: doesntlook like 3N or 5D so no problem.. 6 athene: perhaps lead a spade from dummy and hope south jumps in with Axx athene: to return a club shevek: same contract, same lead in OR sharkey: N has to make 2 discards if tricks taken idblu: ge Shirley :) mariner1: oops Open is in 4 :).. 3 ralfwil: of course, but still he has opened xenya: yes ovncylmz: herkese iyi aksamlar ovncylmz: gunaydin:) sengulerz: K-G 3 yapabiliyor ama zon durumu ters olunca konuˆ mak zor vulkan: ˆ imdi 1 batar.. Q vulkan: ko devamˆ na eccone: wc vulkan: DB bu el 2 yapabiliyordu ama 1.bordda aˆ ˆ zlarˆ yandˆ ˆ ˆ iˆ in uyandˆ ramadˆ lar :) kabexnuf: +1 herhalde sharkey: Yes - and then do the right choice in.. 4 ralfwil: no thougtts about a grand? werge: Is this play right: to the Ace - and let the 9 run...? sharkey: much easier to bid seeing all hands :) mpny: they will pick up another 3 IMPs here yo_yo: do we all bid 1NT with that east hand over the overcall? yo_yo: i usually pass with a weak NT ovncylmz: 16.50de tamamlanan birinci maclarin sonuclari elimizde mi? eccone: elma ovncylmz: 3asli max bir el bence de wilkinsona: 13 now I suppose.. K marlowepi: sometimes a bidder is just maximum...except for me of course irwinbo: is three diamonds forward going or just blocking? caitlin: you here Ed? akgun: meraba wilkinsona: declarer miss timed things in OR it seems... 6 ralfwil: for me 5nt in this sequence is a grand trial idblu: blocking athene: whatever she chooses to discard will work out ok josj: ii think so roswolf: no but in a strong club system they sometimes have to yo_yo: ah that s the difference maybe josj: opps can t beat it as they have no running

18 suits threatening aruf: gˆ naydˆ n Nezih abi hoˆ geldin nezihk: tx kabexnuf: gunaydin nezih abi vulkan: sorry 2-1 nezihk: bence sabah mahmurluˆ u vardˆ ilk elde, bu onlarˆ uyandˆ rmaya yetecektir aruf: ˆ zmir de hava bugˆ n yaˆ murlu ˆ u anda vulkan: valla Aydoˆ dular cin gibi :) nezihk: bellioluyor, ancak ben minˆ rler veya davetimsi el aˆ ˆ klmasˆ na katˆ lmˆ yorum, ya birisi ya diˆ eri olur ovncylmz: dun fikret aydogdu oynamamis elimizdeki bilgilere gore, nevzat aydogdu-hayati ergur le oynamisti kabexnuf: daha enteresan alertler gorecegimize inanˆ yorum yakop: herzaman o hesap tutmuyo :) tokay1975: 6sp 7h dense yakop: bu el iˆ in iyi ama bircanˆ n 6 demesi lazˆ m cunku rakip baraj yapar ve kac olacagˆ belli degil riyilikci: 1/16ˆ n son devresi oynanˆ yor wilkinsona: so terrific start for Hayate, making 7NT NS board 1, 6NT EW board irwinbo: that s what i think idblu: any other bid would be fed going cindy: i think it depends on your agreement marlowepi: makes best sense to play it that way, as other bids are available to show strength ahollan1: indeed - maybe a mild upset to get to finals, but were Seeded in the Top 4 sybarra: that is why he is playing and I am in the rafters.. 5 yo_yo: I cant think of a game here even seeing all hands ralfwil: and now 11 xenya: another good idea -- set up a spade trick while discarding losers from hand b_eymen: -1 eccone: Q idblu: forward.. K sybarra: hello Ed othered1: Hi, Caitlin! othered1: Hi, Shirley! caitlin: :) caitlin: yes 6 IMP to Juice othered1: juice will get 5 back here, sooner or later. caitlin: 5 frankaus: this could make if Fushida ellect to finess.. 3 sharkey: no - do you agree with Paul s Dbl? yo_yo: i sympathize with it mpny: no, I do not, but it is not an easy hand idblu: from the get-go? ahollan1: in fact -- the top 4 seeds ALL advanced to the semi-finals mcarroll: Yes a real opportunityt here as they stopped in 3 in OR MolvaM: ˆ u an bu ˆ ampiyona izmirde MolvaM: kˆ ltˆ rpark fuarˆ ndaki salonlarda oynanˆ yor eccone: :) yakop: konyada 80 lerde bi baraj yapˆ lmˆ ˆ adˆ may barajˆ marlowepi: though not as ducious as the double.. 4 snorris: misguessed s maybe sharkey: cud be wilkinsona: played to ruff clubs in hand and lost control it seems.. snorris: this was not a pleasing sight this king of for north ralfwil: But no use of it wilkinsona: yes only 3 spades othe table too...cant see why north doesnt try for the max here idblu: I want the handicapper betting for me :) ralfwil: I have played many worse games.. J snorris: 4 bid might win or might push oponents to a sac fabsayc: NEX josj: it also has the virtue of making life more difficult for the opps, as was proved here sharkey: Double finesse in odds on.. Q yo_yo: no they didnt bid it, good job we didnt bet :) marlowepi: 3 rounds of clubs is the defense.. 2 mariner1: yes the bad break hurts ralfwil: perfect defence so far ahollan1: key info fred: if i m betting -- ignore handicapper -- just bet opposite of what i do MolvaM: ve bizler naklen izliyoruz eccone: may da arapˆ ada su demek snorris: well done.. 6 bg: another 13 for Japan werge: Third in hand santyclz: Wd Martin, avoiding Joey s copyright. xenya: now he can try for a cross ruff -- which works here eccone: karoyu direkt cakmasˆ daha iyiydi riyilikci: ˆ eyrek final 1. devre 17:10 yakop: herˆ ey bitmiˆ baraja su toplanmˆ ˆ gˆ l kocaman roswolf: :).. T

19 b_eymen: pik bˆ rakˆ lˆ nca herˆ ey cakˆ lsa MolvaM: bu bordda 3 te durmak bence kazanˆ l ˆ olabilir. doˆ unun eli ile ˆ zellikle ortak cevap verdikten sonra frenlerin tutmama ihtimali var MolvaM: bora 3 dese idi acaba cem altan ne derdi? eccone: Merhabalar MolvaM: selam eymen kabexnuf: xenya: she sorry.. 5 ovncylmz: pas gecer herhalde:) snorris: might be difficult to find out about the queen.. 8 ahollan1: thoughtful A cash before going back to -- encourages partner to play 13th, but just doesn t matter here sengulerz: gene de pastan gelirken cesaretini toplayˆ p 2 e dbl diyen oyuncular ˆ ˆ kar snorris: 10 imps.. A sharkey: So the Chinese Women strike back fabsayc: T idblu: people who have used me for that theory are very rich today as well :) josj: maybe :) MolvaM: eˆ er ˆ u an izmir fuarˆ na yakˆ n bir izleyici varsa turnuva alanˆ na gidip Walddk2: or maybe because you are not a Swedish citizen? :).. 8 vugraphzhn: Fredin: Leads from 6, Efraimsson: normally 3rd, but 5th possible ralfwil: but it was a lucky 7nt on OR santyclz: +2, NEXT! idblu: JOEY!!!! aruf: bir fazlaya claim etmesi gerek ovncylmz: konusur mu ki bi kez daha? santyclz: Oops.. A idblu: got the next part :) yo_yo: well it was a no hope contract eccone: rakibin cakmamasˆ iyi sonuc verdi gerci eccone: claim vugraphzkg: claim yapmak istemiyor 1 ˆ mp ˆ ˆ kartabilirmiyim ˆ midi var ralfwil:!.. 2 eccone: ama cakmayarak kazanacagˆ bˆ durum yok akgun: evet 1 eksik oldu eccone: hangi kanaldan :P thommos: they can make their trumps separately.. J yo_yo: the ladies crowded the auction sharkey: perhaps the downside looms larger than the upside vie Vul vs NV on this hand mdgraham: there is a good case for having four spades, otherwise partner may find it difficult to judge, particularly if the oppo bid 4 vulkan: sonuˆ lar tbricfed/calendar.php da yayˆ nlanacak, ancak henˆ z girilmemiˆ sengulerz: G in eliyle exerdar: :) MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ rlerimize ˆ Sˆ MLERˆ G ˆ RMELERˆ GEREKTˆ ˆ ˆ Nˆ hatˆ rlatabilir :) T wilkinsona: good play by East here has made up for the NS error board one OR.. 8 ovncylmz: Turkiye Kis 4lu Sampiyonasi Grup Elemelerinde 80 takim var, 10gruba ayrilmis durumdalar. Bugun 3(2si oynandi), yarin 4mac var, ve yarin sonunda gruplarda ilk 3e kalan takimlar, Q.. A ovncylmz: Istanbul ve Ankara 1.leri ile birlesip Knockout oynamaya hak kazanacaklar ovncylmz: Diger masa maca boardlar ile basladi eccone: erdinˆ abide burdaymˆ ˆ

20 Board 3 this/total IMPs NS: YILANKIRAN 3 13 EW: JR. YILANKIRAN - 1 o 1N S c 2N S Q106 4 Q2 K Q109 Q8 6 K K 9 5 A W N S E A J AK A J 8 4 J 4 J N: O. SAKRAK W: E. KAYA Open E: F. KEPEKCI S: Y. ATABEY W N E S 1 p 1 p 1N p p p #1 W:: K,2,J,3 #2 W:: Q,6,4,5 #3 W:: T,A, 2, 7 #4 N:: 5,4,6,Q #5 W:: 9, 4, 3, 8 #6 W:: 2,K,A,3 #7 E:: J,7, 4, 9 #8 E:: 8,T, 6, 5 #9 S:: A,8,7,2 #10 S:: K,Q,9,3 #11 S:: A,6,8,7 #12 S:: J,Q,K, J #13 N:: 9, T,5, T Board 3 this/total IMPs NS: JR. YILANKIRAN - 1 EW: YILANKIRAN 3 13 o 1N S c 2N S Q106 4 Q2 K Q109 Q8 6 K K 9 5 A W N S E A J AK A J 8 4 J 4 J1032 N: O.Kanlˆ W: G.Yˆ lmaz Closed E: O.Gur S: ˆ.Ayaz W N E S 1 p 1 p 1N p 2N p p p #1 W:: Q,A,J,3 #2 N:: 5,2,J,Q #3 W:: K,2,4,5 #4 W:: T,6, 7, 8 #5 W:: 6,4,T,A #6 S:: A,6,8,3 #7 S:: 3,2,K,A #8 E:: 2,K,Q,7 #9 S:: 5,8,9,J #10 E:: 3, 7, 4, 5 #11 E:: J,6,Q,9 #12 W:: 9, 9, 4,7 #13 W:: T,,, marlowepi: simplest to open 1NT, though not ideal..1!..2+c..p..1..p..1n..p..p..p.. K J Q T.. A Q K.. A J T A K.. Q A J.. Q.. K.. J T T snorris: now we will know if n-s play strong werge: Listen - he has an Ace, a trump trick ( aganins GOOD bidders - and partner has promised an opening bid wilkinsona: 6NT other room.. snorris: 3-3 ralfwil: I ask fro the Q by bidding 6. The suit below the trumph snorris: me too

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