TURKEY CLUBS CHAMPIONSHIP(1_16 2_SEGMENT)

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1 TURKY CLUB CHAMPIOHIP(1_1 2_GMT) AMU POLI GUCU vs IZMIR BB AMU POLI GUCU IZMIR BB IZMIR BB AMU POLI GUCU GULR AAL GOKU ARIGU CGIZ KUBAC ZORLU AYDOGDU Board Contract By M D - - Contract By M D - - IMPs x x IMPs AMU POLI GUCU IZMIR BB This segment 0 1 Penalty 0 0 Carryover total References: BridgeBase online. dited by M.ugino

2 Board 1 : AMU POLI GUCU - : IZMIR BB - o 20 c K Q J Q2 K J A A10 Q10 A AK J K10 Q J : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p p p p.... Q #1 :: A,,, #2 ::,T,,2 # :: A,,,2 # :: K,, K, # ::,A,,2 # ::, J,, J # :: K,,, # :: Q,,, andyv: does lead set?..p alddk2: no alddk2: Declarer will take a pitch before he plays trump alddk2: A, club, AK....p..p rnmalik: The by can be be defeated on A lead and another. Lets see. Good result in CR...p.. A alddk2: o it can t.. andyv: :).... h_karluk: are you sure rasheed? rnmalik: Thought so..... T.. alddk2: Declarer will surely pitch a club on a heart before playing spades alddk2: It s not difficult andyv: he should rnmalik: yes, incorrect observation A K.... K A.. andyv: and the excitement goes out of the hand rnmalik: sorry J.... J.. K

3 Board 1 : IZMIR BB - :AMU POLI GUCU - o 20 c K Q J Q2 K J A A10 Q10 A AK J K10 Q J : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU p p p p #1 :: A,,, #2 ::,T,,2 # :: A,,,2 # :: K,, K, # ::,,Q,2 # :: K,,, A # ::,,, Q # :: J,,, andyv: he did get tricks nafiz: meraba herkese... elemeler tur, her tur 1 el oynanacak..p....p..p..p.. A hobakan: herkese gˆ naydˆ n.. hobakan: hepiniz hoˆ geldiniz andyv: 1.. nafiz: gˆ naydˆ n ˆ zgˆ r.. hobakan: selamlar hobakan: herkese merhaba hobakan: hoˆ geldiniz hobakan: gˆ naydˆ n:):).. hobakan: herkese merhabalar hobakan: yine ˆ ok heyecanlˆ bir maˆ ile beraberiz hobakan: tˆ m gruplardaki son maˆ lar halilazˆ rda girilmekte voldenuit: hard choose for orth pass or 2.. hobakan: hakan peyret hoˆ geldin, gˆ naydˆ n peyret: merhaba psridhar: 2D over 1nt might not hv been natural or is it?.. T voldenuit: natural for them andyv: lead helps psridhar: 2d certainly easier to play than 1nt ; but 1nt shd make voldenuit: and 1 it s seems andyv: entries are the problem... needs to lead towards his s and (although opps may break s for him). psridhar: a h lead was best for defense and that was the only suit the leader held rodal f: ot shure by the system. Often best minor and then can be at cards so 1T stop is ok funtay: herkese merhaba gravity: slm:) hobakan: ˆ mer kesik misin? :).. hobakan: teams_round.php?round=2 hobakan: a ve b gruplarˆ girilmiˆ hobakan: sayfayˆ gˆ ncellerseniz skorlar girilmeye devam ediyor funtay: herkese merhaba.. 2 serhat: merhaba Tayfun.. merhaba herkese funtay: mrb erhat funtay: Kuzey dbl yerine yi tercih etse! d ye pass diyerek ortagina birakabilirdi karari funtay: simdi batarken ye batacak hobakan: maˆ oynanacak gruplarda hobakan:.inci maˆ lar oynanmakta hobakan: birazdan linkleri veririz psridhar: but Rehder goes for the stronger suit.. A voldenuit: plays a very natural with better minor strong nt 2 strong 2 multi and 2M = 2 suiters andyv: one plus for declarer is can t attack s nafiz: meraba Funtay funtay: slm afiz funtay: Ankaradaki sampiyonaya 2 takim iˆ tirak ediyor. her biri takimdan oluˆ an gurup var voldenuit: and then and for the queen.. K andyv: now to board and back gravity: :) yok abi dinleniyorum nakavtlar var. :).... K Q andyv: may switch here but should continue s K funtay: deklerede bi anlasmazlˆ k oldu sanirim.. - -

4 hobakan: hahhahaha:) ˆ aˆ arˆ m seni kesecek kaptana dermiˆ im:) voldenuit: nice switch.... A andyv: yes.. psridhar: rising with dia king resolved the guesss in dia for decl; if he had put in the jack decl might hv guessed kx on his left tez: iyi gˆ nler.... serhat: evet ama c normal kontrat bence.. zonda andyv: this gives the contract.. Q.. J andyv: will play now andyv: if not, will have time to set up for th trick funtay: evet rodal f: Or?.. nafiz: meraba Tez hocam hg tez: hb:) Board 1 : AMU POLI GUCU - : IZMIR BB 1 o c AQ10 Q2 A 2 AK J AK10 K J 10 J 2 10 K 2 Q Q J - : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p p X p p X p p p p p #1 :: A,,2, #2 ::, T,, # :: A,,,2 # :: K,,T,Q # :: J,,, # ::,K,,2 # ::,, J, 2 # ::,T, A, K # ::,, T, #10 ::,,, #11 :: J,Q,,J #12 :: A,,Q, #1 ::,, K, Q andyv: needed to be -1 for the defence pelu: I have tryed to do some homework :) - All players have played for the Turkey Open Team. The most expirient player are Assael in ast - here have been there from 1 and plyed C pelu: 200 and his partner Kubac was on national team in the 0 es alddk2: Double..p..p....p pelu: orth played Open team 1 and 200 in Pau, on Open 1 and p alddk2: Then Lebensohl 2T should apply but..... h_karluk: i doubt firm call..p..p alddk2: would show values for many - -

5 alddk2: If weak go through 2T, forces and then bid....p h_karluk: but why not..p..p andyv: doesn t look like they play that h_karluk: i am impressed Peter s homework, maybe another agreement by Roland is on the way, i know last one was in 1:).. A T.... h_karluk: the position still unfamiliar to me, ie say yr p opened a, righty overcalled a, and yr p doubled it, passed to you, so 2 (/2 fit) obv call.. A K.... T.. Q.. J K J T.. A.. K T J Board 1 : IZMIR BB 1 :AMU POLI GUCU - o c AQ10 Q2 A 2 AK J AK10 K J 10 J 2 10 K 2 Q Q J - : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU 1 X 2 p p X p p p p #1 :: Q,A,, #2 ::,K,, # ::,T,2, # :: 2,,K, # :: A,,, # :: K,,, # :: J,, T,2 # ::, 2,, # ::,Q,, #10 ::,T, T, #11 ::,,, A voldenuit: a 0% game in.. Q.... J.. A.... Q K.. Q serhat: Tayfun Roland rica etti ama ben birazdan kacacagˆ m.. artˆ k top sende.. saat burda funtay:. maclar sonunda major., cerkezkˆ y. sˆ rada funtay: ok iyi geceler funtay: 2 alert edildi sanirim hobakan: dam kˆ r ataˆ ˆ na sadece 1 pik lˆ vesi kaybederse pik oluyor hobakan: herkese merhaba... hoˆ geldiniz tez: omer kizilok ve basak kutuk eski partnerlik..1 tez: naci demirbas ve safak uras ta oyle hobakan: kendisi alert ettiˆ i iˆ in operatˆ r iˆ aretliyor ancak ortaˆ ˆ nˆ n gˆ rmesi ˆ nemli bu durumda - -

6 hobakan: o durumda kˆ r bir iˆ eri iyi skor.. hobakan: ilginˆ bir kontrat ile baˆ ladˆ k..2 funtay: :) hobakan: bu eˆ leˆ me biraz sert olmuˆ. hobakan: diˆ erlerine de bakalˆ m funtay: round.php?round=2 sonuclar iˆ in..p gravity: karo atagina kritik olabilir kˆ r, belki de batar kimbilir, imp kazanabilirler andyv: will get into this action..p andyv: might dbl here (responsive) psridhar: has a gud hand but no suit to bid and stuck for a bid alddk2: Indeed, double would be penalty I suspect psridhar: X seems the optimum action but with - in minors that has its own risks as well alddk2: ould be nice to have double as responsive here andyv: you don t play it as card showing? rodal f: Responsive seems OK as Andy said alddk2: ot sure that it should be funtay: 1 boardluk tek devreli lig usulˆ ne gˆ re yapˆ lacak maˆ lar sonrasˆ gruplarˆ nda ilk sˆ rayˆ alan takˆ mlar Knock-Out maˆ larˆ yapmak ˆ zere bir ˆ st tura(1/1) cˆ kar hobakan: Arkadaˆ lar ankaralˆ arkadaˆ lar yazabilirse bana....p hobakan: kim kiminle nafiz: hocam benim okulum ˆ ne geˆ ti, tezahˆ rat serbest mi?.. hobakan: izmir ile de samsun oynuyor.. bu eˆ leˆ menin galibiyle hobakan: diˆ er tarafˆ da sˆ yleyeceˆ im lˆ olarak yine hobakan: Kunteper e ˆ ok teˆ ekkˆ r ediyoruz andyv: well, there s always the - fit..p voldenuit: I fear they don t discuss about the meaning of double andyv: and it may play rather well psridhar: Roland has a valid point-what will do with a penalty X hand? wait for a 2nd X that may not come? funtay: 2 aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ sanˆ rˆ m majorleri gˆ steritor funtay: 2nt +fit ve zon puani alddk: teams_round.php?round=2 for standings in the groups after of qualifying rounds nafiz: tx Roland hobakan: kˆ r..p hobakan: hobakan: den biri:) hobakan: iˆ eri ya da 2 fazla hobakan: 2 pik yerine ne diyebilir... ben Cl derdim..p hobakan: Fransˆ zlar 2 T forcing oynuyorlar.. Q.. A alddk2: 2 is... well, imaginative.. hobakan: artˆ k batmaz psridhar: this innovative - fit plays very well -i expect it to make.. nafiz: oner hoˆ geldin hobakan: pik kararˆ na hobakan: bazˆ ortaklˆ klar da Pik i forcing oynuyorlar.. alddk2: That s a diplomatic word for %!!.. K hobakan: anlaˆ maya baˆ lˆ.. hobakan: 1 takˆ m var hobakan: koz da -0 hobakan: ben ˆ u an eˆ leˆ melere bakˆ yorum hobakan: adana-diyarbakˆ r hobakan: mersin-ankara.. andyv: with 2 ruff, 2 and he does come close:).. hobakan: ˆ ˆ renebildiklerim belli hobakan: bunlar sd12: Hoˆ bulduk herkese merhaba.. T hobakan: bir tur pik bˆ rakˆ p trefleri forse edecektir.. pik civarˆ nda bir kontrat gravity: biz de, ama fransˆ z diiliz:) h de forsinf oynuyoruz... 2 hobakan: h de mi forsing? gravity: evet,davet eli 2nt diyoruz. ama h e kadar forcing. hobakan: hah oldu tez: atagi normal ve iyiydi..ama acik kartta kotu..dogrular herzaman kazandirmiyor.. funtay: slm soner funtay: anlasma olmayanlar iˆ in ve garantiye almak iˆ in en iyisi, dimi?.. K hobakan: tofaˆ iˆ in iyi board.. andyv: should pitch.. A psridhar: after 2nd ruff he can cross in dia draw 2 more trumps and cash dia as well :).. alddk2: ince can t make game, this is as good as anything K.. andyv: now pull spades, cash and show everyone what an easy game this is psridhar: brilliant! psridhar: time to draw trumps Kilani :) alddk2: Did someone fall asleep? - -

7 andyv: I used to play with a player where all dbls were takeout... so this one would not have been a problem... and before you ask, he was a decent player:) J.. alddk2: My penalty doubles start at the -level hobakan: nt kontratˆ nda da lˆ ve mˆ mkˆ n.. C+2D+1H T vahaboglu: Herkese gˆ naydˆ n rodal f: Often a safe variant.. Q.. hobakan: tarsus-ˆ ay yolu funtay: herkese merhaba voldenuit: well done by south.... nafiz: gn Haldun, hg.. T.. T A Board 1 : AMU POLI GUCU - : IZMIR BB - 1 o 0 c A 2 A10 Q J A Q J A10 2 Q 10 Q K10 2 K J K 2 K J : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p 1 p 2 p 2 p 2 p 2 p p p p p p p #1 ::,A,,J #2 :: A,,2,Q # ::,,, # :: Q,2,, # :: J,A,, # :: Q,,, # :: K,,, # ::,,A, # :: 2,Q,K, #10 :: K,,, pelu: diff to bid 2 over 2 :) pelu: a contract is ok for me, and tricks if played and not ruffing a..p..1 pelu: would u open in ast?..p h_karluk: sure, i feel sthng like "hey, hearts ok, double shld contain cards " allright, what if A10x or K10x rnmalik: I will not. h_karluk: i would h_karluk: you Peter?..2!..p..2!..!d and!h + or 1..p pelu: u dont miss slams, hamdi :) h_karluk: meaningful:)..2 pelu: I would pass out of 100..p..2 pelu: 10..p....p..!

8 h_karluk: i would open but i would rebid 2..p....p....p andyv: does the qualify as a Roland slam? andyv: this rnmalik: He only bids slams which make, so it does not.:) pelu: I exp so - need help from opp :) alddk2: Youdid not take notes yesterday. Roland s Rule alddk2: Rashed is correct vugraphzps: Kubac is still thinking... h_karluk: i liked Roland s rule alddk2: "Only bid slams that make" h_karluk: moreover copyright not claimed pelu: make on lead to A alddk2: Add that to your CC h_karluk: one good thing, 10 is not located at, so eschewed to guess correct direction..p..p.... A.... J.. A Q Q J pelu: now I see - slam is on after a non- -lead.. A.... andyv: yes andyv: only need suits to behave and a non club lead.. Q K andyv: so Roland s Rule will go next to Crane s law A Q.. K.... K Board 1 : IZMIR BB - 1 :AMU POLI GUCU - o 0 c A 2 A10 Q J A Q J A10 2 Q 10 Q K10 2 K J K 2 K J : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU p 1 p 1 p 2 p 2 p p p p #1 ::,J,K,A #2 ::,,K,Q # ::,,Q,A # :: Q,K,, # :: 2,,,J # ::,,,A voldenuit: good board for in the other roomp alddk2: Textbook example of "The -level belongs to the opponents" psridhar: the Vul factor played a role in that s i guess alddk2: It is almost always wrong to bid over funtay: nt geˆ ilince kotu skor oldu diyarbakˆ r takˆ mˆ na hobakan: Vxx stoper olmadˆ ˆ ˆ iˆ in 1T diyemedi oyuncu.. gayet normal hobakan: arkadaˆ lar link yok malesef gravity: nt ˆ ok iyi kontratti..p..1 gravity: onceki el hobakan: aynˆ beni tarif ettin tayfun.. :) evet :) funtay: 1 acici ˆ zerine normal deklere..p andyv: I think those myths are passed on by experts who make a living at bridge and don t - -

9 want novices bidding over them at the level:)..1 psridhar: how abt that enterprising H by south on that ---2 in closed room? duly rewarded? rodal f: Belive the sac will come from as well here. Then to choose X or bid funtay: senin kadar cok partnerim olsa bende garanti deklereler verirdim:) hobakan: gˆ vercin yoluyla aldˆ ˆ ˆ mˆ z haberlerle idare ediyoruz funtay: mac sonuclari iˆ in serhat: wellcome O bakan, although gs supporter:)..p hobakan: selamlar iyi akˆ amlar funtay: slm ˆ zgˆ r hobakan: sana iyi uykular serhat abi... serhat: tesekkurler voldenuit: pass is very conservative..2 tez: oynanacak saniyorum serhat: kac gun finaller hobakan: tayfuncum mrb.:) hobakan: yani:) voldenuit: I wld have bid sth with a void in..p andyv: auction starting nice and slow andyv: in CR, felt his hand was worth a preemptive bid sd12: Diyarbakˆ r iˆ in deklarasyon zor geliˆ ti. yerine dbl alternatif olabilirdi. alddk2: Pasing the orth hand at these colours would not be on for me..2 hobakan: deˆ iˆ ik metodlar var.. transfer li sistemde ve daha fazla pik olan eller ile kontr deniyor. 1sp ise bu eli anlatˆ yor alddk2: Passing even..p funtay: haklˆ sˆ n soner hobakan: teams_round.php?round=2 sd12: 2 majorlee ise te olabilir... tez: kisalik gostermeli bu durumda hobakan: teams_round.php tez: kuzeyin elide kisaligindan nefret ediyor..p..p hobakan: birzdan mˆ ˆ hobakan: misfit bir el funtay: deklresinde anlasamadilar..p hobakan: bu ˆ artlarda ARDVx-XX gayet iyi fit.. funtay: sansli bir el hersey yerli yerinde hobakan: nun karo dˆ ˆ ˆ as sorusu olduˆ unu zannetmiyorum psridhar: H might hv escaped for 00.. J hobakan: uefa grubu gayet gˆ zel funtay: 2 Agustos sali gˆ nˆ finaller ile sona eriyor hobakan: hem kˆ r hem de trefl ters yerde.. K peyret: iyi atak hobakan: 10 lˆ ve de olabilirdi her an:) funtay: kuzeyin elinden yerine 2nt daha iyi alternatif dimi oner.. A hobakan: inˆ allah bu sene finalde gˆ rˆ rˆ z funtay: 1 lol serhat: Ozgur Tayfun benden buyuk bana abi diyorsun ona tayfuncum? :) vahaboglu: kˆ r daˆ ˆ lˆ mˆ bozuk ama debir sorun yok tez: kontru pek parlak degil.. funtay: :) hobakan: bricdeki stillerine gˆ re kategorize ediyorum ben.:) hobakan: abilik mevhumunu:).. tez: atagi kendisi yapacak zaten.. K serhat: heee simdi oldu.. saygˆ on planda yani.. Q funtay: ben daha genc gˆ steriyorum sehatcim hobakan: eˆ er ˆ yle olsa 2 KC + Koz Q ye denk gelirdi hobakan: bu da yapˆ labilen bir kontrat hobakan: Tez kˆ r damˆ saklamˆ ˆ da olabilir hobakan: 2 iˆ eri.. tez: omer kizilok dam i almazsa ilginc olacak.. andyv: holding identical to the one he had on board.. Q hobakan: piklerden sonra trefl oynayˆ nca.. A hobakan: stil demiˆ tik ama neyse... Q.. K funtay: gˆ rˆ ldˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ zere partnerlik anlasmalarˆ bricin en ˆ nemli tarafˆ.. hobakan: DAM dˆ ˆ eceˆ i iˆ in pik pasˆ na kalmˆ yor peyret: artik ceksede farketmiyor peyret: as karoyu hobakan: zaten! d expas lˆ k durum olsa Yusuf kozu dˆ ner bu durumda.. ya da deklaran trefl baˆ ˆ ˆ lamadan ˆ nce piki oynar.. hobakan: ercan aˆ ˆ sˆ ndan ˆ ˆ le bi olay var.. zaten herˆ eyin ˆ ok da uygun olmamasˆ lazˆ m... J.. hobakan: treflin - olmasˆ gerekiyor extra ˆ anslarˆ denemek iˆ in.. - -

10 Board 1 : AMU POLI GUCU - : IZMIR BB o c AK J 2 Q A Q10 J Q AK Q10 AK K J10 J : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ 1 p 1 p 1 p p p pelu: for sure 1T was opp 12-1 est could never bid T h_karluk: they say now you started to talk in the southern part of UA :) i liked your view Peter #1 ::,2,Q, #2 :: T,J,K, # :: A,,, # ::, 2,, # ::, 2,, # ::,2,,Q # ::,,Q, # ::,A,T, h_karluk: i guess the ability to bid a contract is based on accurate exchange of information by partners, any misunderstanding would lead disastrous results. In most cases step by step slow..... A h_karluk: approach fine. andyv: good stop..1!..p..1..p..1..p..p..p pelu: DD sh play back - but in real lift for sure back Q.. andyv: a little friskier in the other room as opened 1 and raised to.. T.. J h_karluk: victims of weak T, evzat complains abt that a lot.. K.... A pelu: when u are down 0+ IMP u open ast hand 1T - that bridge andyv: not a horrible T even if playing tens are compensation Q Q A.. T

11 Board 1 : IZMIR BB :AMU POLI GUCU - o c AK J 2 Q A Q10 J Q AK Q10 AK K J10 J : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU 1 p p p p #1 ::,2,Q, #2 :: T,J,K, # :: A,,, # ::, 2,, # ::,,, # ::,,, andyv: another words... bad:) psridhar: 12 imps to that german effort -no risk no imps style auction :) sd12: 2 majorler aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ise pik kesmiyorum diye i tercih etmiˆ olabilir. hobakan: kontrat ˆ imdilik ˆ nemsiz hobakan: yeni borda nakalˆ m.. iyi uykular serhat kaptan:) funtay: ilk el denilince ˆ bˆ r odada imp Majore geldi hobakan: bence kˆ r as yere geˆ ip trefl empas alternatif dˆ ˆ ˆ.. empas tutmazsa kˆ r gelir irtibatˆ keserler vahaboglu: 1T aˆ arsa T gelir hobakan: np:) bilmityorum sorayˆ m..1 serhat: dur daha burayim yaa?? andyv: board 2 (as a spec pointed out that this was board... yawn)..p voldenuit: seems =.. voldenuit: T murat: selam herkese tez: acik kartla yapilabilir serhat: :) funtay: eller sakin, ama seyirci ve biz hareket isteriz hobakan: :) hobakan: 2 kritik el ile baˆ ladˆ aˆ ˆ k oda.. burasˆ en son oynayacak o elleri hobakan: ancak 2 iyi eli var hoˆ gˆ rˆ nˆ n hobakan: gˆ ney 2 pik dese bile D-B karodan partscore yapabiliyor hobakan: Tayfun hg bu arada sd12: slm..p funtay: slm Murat tez: bizde 2 diger 2 renk..p tez: 2 dersek naturel tez: ortaklarin anlasmasi gerekiyor tabiki serhat: federasyon gibisin:) hobakan: tˆ m gruplardaki son durumlar funtay: :) funtay: degeri ile iyi acˆ ˆ..p funtay: umarim:) vahaboglu: ataˆ ˆ na batˆ yor tez: omerin dememesi ilginc.. hobakan: diˆ er odada Tez 1t rebid edecek hobakan: :) kusura bakma.. zor oluyo hem iˆ hem cevap yetiˆ tirmeye ˆ alˆ ˆ mak funtay: np:) biliyorum psridhar: Bd inserts a spoke in the french bid for silver temporarily.. 2 voldenuit: but est has to play it carefully to unblock the and then playing.. Q alddk2: round.php?rid=12 for results and standings before the last round tez: once limite olayim dedi hobakan: teams_round.php?round=2 hobakan: lˆ fit ile Durury 2 peyret: bu board aˆ ik odada farkli olur.. psridhar: overtaking the club king is tempting.. T.. J psridhar: doesnt work here with clubs -1 andyv: and why give up a club if they are -? psridhar: 2spd+2h+2dia+cl is the route psridhar: the slow route to nt funtay: dogu batiya iyi kontrati var ancak az puanla bulunamadi hobakan: - el,in tercihi 1 t olmayacaktˆ r hobakan: 2 pik cevabˆ gelmeyeceˆ ine gˆ re her cevaba razˆ olduˆ undan 1T ye tercˆ h etti kontratˆ Mert psridhar: a thoughtful spd play.. K

12 tez: demeyince demek zorunda kaldi funtay: karo kupu alinsa dahi oluyor dˆ z board hobakan: hangisi doˆ ru sorusuna tercih diye cevap verebilirim ancak.... A hobakan: belki de 2 gelse baˆ ka bˆ ey dˆ ˆ ˆ nebilirdi funtay: deminki elden major sayi alir tahminimce zor oynamak.... hobakan: deminki el ile ilgili ˆ ok analiz var.. tayfuna soralˆ m.. yere pik ˆ akmak daha mˆ iyi oyun diye? olasˆ lˆ k olarak.. funtay: karo as atagindan sonra bence doggru oynadi hobakan: bir de 2 dbl pike gˆ re T/o mˆ oynamak lazˆ m diye bi gˆ rˆ ˆ var. funtay: ile ilgilenmek biraz iyimser bence.. gravity: pik kabak deˆ ildi, pikte biraz zorlancak vahaboglu: zaten ya daihtiyaˆ var funtay: toplam koz ve ve toplam 2-2 puan ile.. gravity: belki ilk elki kˆ tˆ skor bu elin deklerasyonunu etkilemiˆ tir peyret: Batinin pas 2 ilginc.. 2 tez: zonda olduklari icin baraj yapamadi.. hobakan: oldu diyodur masadaki kiˆ i hobakan: puan normalde tabiki yetmez ama puanlarˆ n iˆ erde olduˆ u bu durm farklˆ tez: baraj yapsa yi yapacaklardi:).. serhat: Tayfun sen bu elleri sevmezsin hobakan: ˆ u anda funtay: pek t/o oynandigina ben rastlamadim sen?.. vahaboglu: T-Pas diye gise nizami olurdu ama bu pozisyonda 1 T aˆ ˆ labilir.. Board 1 : AMU POLI GUCU 2 : IZMIR BB - o 0 c Q10 2 K J 2 10 K J A A J AK Q2 A 10 K J Q 2 Q : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p p 2 p p p p #1 ::,,Q,K #2 :: A,,,T # :: K,,, # :: Q,,, # :: 2,,J, # ::,,J,Q # ::,A,2, # ::,2,A,T # ::,,K, #10 ::, J,, #11 ::,K,A,2 #12 :: J,,, #1 ::, Q,T, T andyv: no one plays 1-1 Ts here?..p..p h_karluk: never used it Andy andyv: I ve been talked into it recently vugraphzps: The players are talking about Assael s diamond play h_karluk: to me clear cut 2 pelu: very few in urope use that range - the normal are (11)12-1 and p...p..p..p.. h_karluk: would any bid 2 like me?.... Q.. K pelu: for me also 2t = 22-2, 2-2 2T = pelu: over 2 I play: 2 /2 = weak (0-) and card suit - sp I can bid "2T" - 2 to play :):).. A T.. K Q J J.. Q

13 A A.. T K J K.. A J Q.. T.. T h_karluk: steps, do we call it so here Andy? Board 1 : IZMIR BB - :AMU POLI GUCU 2 o 0 c Q10 2 K J 2 10 K J A A J AK Q2 A 10 K J Q 2 Q : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU p p 2 p p p p #1 :: 2,,,A #2 :: A,,,T # :: K,,, # :: Q,,, # :: 2,,J, 2 # ::,,A, # ::,T,K, # :: A,2,, # ::,T,K, funtay: 2 nolu bord ˆ bˆ r odada nt oynandi ve mersine 12 imp funtay: serbest sekans sonucu gelmek kolay olmu ˆ funtay: vahˆ i bir el bakalim nereye gelecekler sd12: konturlu oynanabilir tez: atak edilsede yapilabiliyordu tez: empasiyla hobakan: aslˆ nda mantˆ klˆ dˆ r bu tˆ r ˆ eyleri t/o oynamak.. ancak rakipde pik var.. kimden ne ˆ alacaˆ ˆ z.. 2 miz de aˆ mamˆ ˆ ˆ z psridhar: Back to 1...p sd12: kuzey gˆ ney yapabiliyor. serhat: s h iyi gibi tez: kontr der mi?..p nafiz: round.php?round=2 gruplar ve ilk maˆ sonuˆ larˆ - 1 -

14 funtay: ah bi su duygudan bi kurtulsak ˆ zgˆ r:) hobakan: dolayˆ sˆ yla pik kontratˆ na mˆ mkˆ nse doˆ ru atak yapalˆ m hobakan: 1 sn. psridhar: One eminent commentator heads for the shower when 1nt is declared :)..2 voldenuit: 1 I thinlk..p tez: kuzeyin eliyle kontr dermiydiniz? hobakan: netekim naturel metod ile 10 lˆ ve alˆ nabilen kontratˆ bulmak zor serhat: s de mumkun hobakan: eˆ itlenmemiˆ ti..ama kendileri iˆ in sempatik bir eldi.. doˆ ru funtay: - el ile makul konuˆ ma...p alddk2: He is therefore the cleanest man in sourthern ngland..p sd12: dbl ceza oynuyorlarki pas pas gitti voldenuit: lead is one off..p alddk2: showers a day psridhar: lol murat: Kulˆ plerarasˆ turnuvasˆ na ait bilgiler: option=com_content&view=article&id=0:2010- tuerkye-kuluepler-arasi-ampyonasi&catid=... murat: : sezonu&Itemid=120 serhat: iyi dediler vahaboglu: ˆ ˆ kacak gibi duruyor psridhar: A hygiene contract so say?.. 2 andyv: water shortage in o. Calif. makes showers max per session psridhar: this shd be easy if decl attacks spds immdly funtay: normal el serhatcim serhat: ama batabilirde hobakan: e gelmediler anlamˆ nda mˆ? funtay: :) hobakan: kˆ salarak olur muydu deminki el? vahaboglu: gˆ zel atak etti murat: option=com_content&view=article&id=0:2010- tuerkye-kuluepler-arasi-ampyonasi&catid=: sezonu&Itemid=120.. hobakan: karar funtay: gˆ naydin beyler hobakan: ooo gˆ naydˆ n mˆ? saat 11 Tayfun Bey..:) hobakan: olmazdˆ ˆ ˆ nkˆ fazla.. ˆ nceden 2 tane kˆ salmˆ ˆ olmalˆ ydˆ funtay: sanmam hobakan: ilk 1 takˆ m devam ediyor hobakan: nakavt usulˆ ile hobakan: elenen (BBO ya ) gelecek:) nafiz: gn Tayfun, hg.. hobakan: nerdesin? :):) serhat: s daha iyiydi.. Burak fit vermeyi tercih etti puanˆ az oldugundan.. A hobakan: diˆ er odayˆ da seyredebileceˆ imiz linki rica ediyor arkadaˆ larˆ mˆ z funtay: anca kalktik :).. A andyv:?.. hobakan: ortak bizdeki lˆ pik ile ilgilense sorardˆ diyerek pass dedi ercan funtay: :) andyv: he ll be happy s are T.. K hobakan: aˆ ˆ k el pikin de ˆ ansˆ var ama.. hobakan: bu kontrat daha makul funtay: ufak atagi ilginc olurdu:) hobakan: ilk lˆ vede vale karo gˆ zel bir yanˆ ltˆ cˆ kart olabilirdi hobakan: keza:) hobakan: ˆ imdi zor defansˆ n iˆ i tez: her rengi kesiyorlar..uzun renkleri var..puan biraz eksik nt icin..bicok masada nt oynanir saniyorum.. psridhar: queen first and if it doesnt work hope for spd 10 to fall in next 2 rds.. hobakan: piki bilse bile nafiz: tez: kuzey guney udca oynuyor..kucuk apel ters sayi.. Q.... funtay: evet ama genelde tersi oynaniyor pass sonra aˆ ˆ cˆ dbl ile uyandˆ rˆ rsa cezaya cevirme seklinde.. serhat: bence bu el flat olur.. 2 hobakan: bu arada bundan ˆ nceki 2 T ve 2 p defanslarˆ nda gayet baˆ arˆ lˆ ydˆ Malatya takˆ mˆ murat: gˆ ney ˆ akacak fakat alˆ cˆ dan ˆ akacaˆ ˆ iˆ in kar etmeyecek.... J funtay: dbl ise Gˆ neyin elinden puan gˆ steririyor funtay: major cok iyi basladi maca vahaboglu: tam olur.. 2 andyv: as long as they are - you are ok... not sure that is the right percentage play though.... serhat: Tezcan kimle oynuyor?.. A.. hobakan: niˆ in lˆ pikimizi gˆ stermiyoruz ˆ ˆ nki; ortak 2 Trefl gibi birˆ ey re-bid ettiˆ inde 2 kˆ r dediˆ imizde bu eli vaad etmemiˆ oluruz..... T.. K.... A funtay: ymen murat: vale kˆ r beklenmeyen bir hamleydi

15 hobakan: buraya kadar iyiydi funtay: evet 1 batma imkani vardi.... T.. K tez: un guneyde lu oldugu tespit edilebilirdi..guneyde 2li ise batinin u lu olurdu.. Board 20 : AMU POLI GUCU 1 : IZMIR BB - o x c A J 10 A 2 AK K 2 AQ J 10 Q10 2 K J Q 2 - K Q10 J - : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ 1 p p X p X p p p #1 :: 2,,A, #2 :: Q,K,, # ::,J,K, # :: J,,, T # :: Q,K,A, # :: A,T,,2 # :: K,, J, # :: A,2,,T # ::,,, #10 ::,Q, 2, #11 ::,,, Q h_karluk: i prefer 2 waiting andyv: yes, but few play it here... most are 2 openers using Kokish relays to show different sizes..1 h_karluk: but i saw players follow yr way Peter:) h_karluk: true Andy.. andyv: with 2 usually being p pelu: 2 is also waiting for me..p h_karluk: i like to borrow a point for several reasons, one of my main interest is in my book i like to play andyv: I ve played Credo in urope which seems similar to what Peter is describing.. pelu: over 2T 22-2 u dont so often need to play on the 2-level, so we X the range..p andyv: pretty aggressive bid by......p..p..p h_karluk: pretty much interesting overcall, - 1 -

16 missed / fit when there s misfit in, altho not very important at 1st sight pelu: again - down 0 - looks like a hand where u like to gamble.. A.... Q.. K.... andyv: and this gamble did pay off.... J.. K.... J T h_karluk: rolling dice fine with me, however that s a matter of trying to avoid hitting corners, otherwise the casino winds up :) vugraphzps: teams_round.php?round=21 pelu: hands (perfume hand) normal sh play in the card suit.. Q.. K.. A h_karluk: i expect a unanimous no to.... A.. T K.... J.... A T Q andyv: usually you want some texture in your card suit... not Kxx esp. when your anchor suit is not solid Q andyv: whatever the case, imps to amsun Board 20 : IZMIR BB - :AMU POLI GUCU 1 o x c A J 10 A 2 AK K 2 AQ J 10 Q10 2 K J Q 2 - K Q10 J - : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU 1 p p p #1 ::,T,J,K #2 :: A,,2, # :: Q,K,, # :: J,Q,K,T # ::,,, # ::,A,, # :: J,,, T # :: 2,,, alddk2: Percentages were not made for :2 am andyv: a Roland slam murat: yerdeyken karo rua ˆ ekip karoya ˆ aksa. bir tur bˆ yˆ k koz ˆ ekip kˆ ˆ ˆ k kˆ rle ˆ ˆ ksa yine 00e kurtarabilirdi funtay: evet tez: o zamanda 1 kontruna 2 degil 2 derdi hobakan: iˆ erde de 1 sp denmeyecektir zaten hobakan: yani deˆ iˆ ik birˆ ey oynamˆ yorlarsa hobakan: gruplardan ilk ˆ ˆ kacak hobakan: bir kez daha hatˆ rlatalˆ m alddk2: I will be disappointed if they don t bid this laydown slam..1 serhat: bence A ve K 1s demeli yada 2A.. hobakan: trefl fit..p andyv: of course, lack of entries to dummy are a killer so need the opps to cooperate... they will stop at..p hobakan: ben hemfikirim aˆ ˆ ˆ ile vahaboglu: yapˆ cˆ oynuyorlar herhalde - 1 -

17 tez: 2 ya 2nt diyecek el yada minorle ilgili el..p serhat: katˆ lˆ yormusunuz hobakan: davet veya fazlasˆ diye hobakan: umuyoruz 2T yi.. funtay: round.php?round=2 sonuclar iˆ in hobakan: ama gerisini nasˆ l konuˆ ulacak bakalˆ m funtay: Demirhan kardesler uzun zamandˆ r birlikte oynayan anlaˆ mˆ ˆ bir partnerlik.. T hobakan: 2 A ile 1 t mi diyelim diyosun? funtay: gayet iyi.. J hobakan: di hobakan: doˆ uda fazla var... K hobakan: rahatlˆ kla kabul ediyor siplinter, funtay: bu elin karˆ isi as soruyorsa derim batinin eli ile alddk2: always cold, you only need 1.. A voldenuit: what wld you lead as south alddk2: serhat: yok 1h 1s andyv: so good, Roland!.. hobakan: tek sayˆ da KC( As) hobakan: arkadaˆ lar link bu hobakan: ancak eˆ leˆ meler yok hobakan: calendar.php murat: pikler 1-1 olunca sorun yok.. 2 sd12: IMP alˆ ˆ veriˆ i olmayacak bir el +1 tez: kucuk atak ederdim.. hobakan: yani iˆ te hobakan: karo ˆ igan gravity: kozdami yok eastte diyemediler hobakan: sorulara cevap vermiˆ olayˆ m hobakan: geldi rodal f: A hook and ruff one for hook It s cold.. Q tez: deermisim:) funtay: :) hobakan: ort 2 Cl deyince?.. K funtay: soranda 2 keykart ve tref kontrolˆ olmali funtay: dolayisiyla sorun yok batinin elinde funtay: guruplarda seri basi olan bazi takimlar gurubu ve cˆ bitirince favori takimlar ilk turda birbiriyle karˆ ˆ laˆ mak durumunda oldular.ˆ rnek bu mac hobakan: kˆ r? :).. serhat: mecburen 2h hobakan: 2 tane kˆ r gibi hobakan: ban katˆ lˆ yorum hobakan: ben* hobakan: eventresults.php?event=02 andyv: now even easier.... J tez: saka diyorum tabiki hobakan: :):):) funtay: dolayisiyla en az davet eli ile 1 diyebiliriz digerleri ile fit vermek iyi serhat: evet hobakan: iˆ in teknik tarafˆ 1-2h ˆ zerine 2s demektir hobakan: bu formatta sˆ k sˆ k baˆ a gelen bir durum sd12: pardon eˆ it.. Q funtay: evet.. K serhat: gerci 1h 2h 2s de gidebilirdi vahaboglu: aˆ lmasa dekleran belki J empasˆ atabilirdi ama ˆ imdi olur.. T hobakan: Ax-AVxx-VOID-ADxxxxx mesela.. m ˆ diyosun ˆ mer?.. gravity: evet olabilir.. hobakan: ortak daveti kabul edecek elle s e yˆ kseltir.... andyv: one imp.... A serhat: yes.. hobakan: ama 1 varken genelde el belli etmeme prensibi ˆ n plana ˆ ˆ ktˆ ˆ ˆ ndan funtay: bildigim kadariyla izmir buyuksehirde polis gˆ cˆ ile oynuyor.... J hobakan: linke tˆ klarsanˆ z bu maˆ larˆ n galibinin de ona gˆ re sˆ ralandˆ ˆ ˆ nˆ hat ˆ rlatalˆ m funtay: bu takimda favori vahaboglu: ˆ imdi de pik as pik oynasa batardˆ hobakan: katˆ lˆ yp.... hobakan: link verdik Tayfuncum - 1 -

18 Board 21 : AMU POLI GUCU 2 1 : IZMIR BB - o c AK J10 2 J 2 Q AQ10 K Q J 2 K J K A10 AQ - : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p p 2 p p p p broke, rt Andy?..2!..!cs andyv: agree..p..2 andyv: and just because bid, doesn t mean he will make it...p.. alddk2: Here is another rule (which is not mine): "hen fixed, stay fixed". est was and should have passed..p..p..p.. h_karluk: very true, most probably Assael didn t expect to make andyv: 2 here probably denies having s pelu: a lot of endplayes a waiting for - so!k is best.... J.... K A J pelu: wd!!!!.. Q.. J alddk2: teams_round.php?round=21.. K.. A T Q pelu: perfect defense - nice to see so good bridge.... A K T andyv: more imps to amsun #1 ::,,J, #2 :: K,,,A # ::,,J,Q # :: J,K,A,2 # :: T,,, # :: Q,,, # :: 2,,, # :: A,,, # :: K,,, #10 :: T, 2,, #11 ::,,Q,K h_karluk: i believe the thrust of those hands could be in some other suits.. T pelu: I like, Hamdi :) h_karluk: i ve full respect Peter :) you know that s me..p alddk2: est s double is interesting. I think it s wrong for many reasons. 1. It s take-out and you only have 2 spades - 2. Partner does not have a penalty of when you are looking at... alddk2: 10xx alddk2: Penalty of I mean h_karluk: gotcha alddk2: And you don t want to hear pelu: good point Roland alddk2: o pass is a winner in the long run I am sure andyv: it felt as if thought was stealing h_karluk: west shld realize that his p might be - 1 -

19 Board 21 : IZMIR BB - :AMU POLI GUCU 2 1 o c AK J10 2 J 2 Q AQ10 K Q J 2 K J K A10 AQ - : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU p p 2 p p p #1 :: K,,, #2 :: Q,,,A # :: T,,, 2 # ::,Q,K, # :: J,T,,A # ::,,2, # ::,, 2, # ::,,A, # :: K,,,2 #10 ::,,K,A psridhar: quite a pushy nt in other room ; i thk Gotard needed at least one more club for that s bid Q.. K rodal f: Back to the partscore? hobakan: kˆ r mˆ ˆ hobakan: numaralˆ elde kˆ r dam empasˆ n ˆ almayˆ nca Kolata kˆ rlere ulaˆ amamˆ ˆ deklaran.. imp daha Hoˆ gˆ rˆ ye hobakan: ortak siplinteri beˆ enince karo Voidinden ˆ nce koz dama mˆ ˆ ncelik vermek lazˆ m acaba? gravity: ben 1 aˆ ardim acikcasi vugraphzpt: dogu koz damˆ olmadˆ ˆ ˆ iˆ in diyememiˆ gravity: sinekler iyi diildi. funtay: plase takimlar:) hobakan: 1 numarada Tofaˆ pike battˆ. 1 numarada da part score konturlu yaptˆ lar...p hobakan: her takˆ m 12 kiˆ iden oluˆ uyor..1 hobakan: burada gˆ rdˆ ˆ ˆ mˆ z Tˆ rkiye finalleri hobakan: bu takˆ mlar kendi bˆ lgelerinde zorlu seˆ melerden sonra buraya geldiler hobakan: yani kˆ tˆ baˆ layan maˆ dˆ nˆ yor gibi hobakan: izmir adˆ na hobakan: dakka mˆ sade bana hobakan: hep As olan el diye bn 1 aˆ ardˆ m...1 psridhar: of course if had held cl queen and slow stoppers in pointed suits that prevented tricks to defense nt might hv made..2 rodal f: till though could be interesting hobakan: doˆ al olarak bazˆ larˆ gidemedi.:) nafiz: bu linkle diˆ er odayˆ da seyretmek mˆ mkˆ n..p..2 funtay: iyi yer serhat: evet hobakan: 1n ˆ zerine iyi anlaˆ malarˆ nˆ zˆ n olmasˆ gerekiyor serhat: s de olur funtay: davet edebilir, ancak bu elin tam tarfi yok hobakan: nt ile d arasˆ nda olacaktˆ r Yirik hobakan: bˆ lgenize gˆ re 2 veya tane ˆ n eleme oynayabiliyorsunuz hobakan: diyemedik iˆ te.. ortak.inci kˆ rˆ gˆ remedi:( funtay: 1 nolu elde az hasar, -1 olunca serhat: nt diyecek..p..p hobakan: dolayˆ sˆ ile kadronun mˆ mkˆ n olduˆ unca geniˆ olmasˆ iyi hobakan: 1 takˆ mˆ n 1 sˆ da.. bu turdan sonra kim gelir felan diye..:) vahaboglu: batˆ nˆ n eliyle daha iyi olurdu andyv: wow... couldn t stand the heat..p.. K funtay: - siyahlar ile bazˆ oyuncular minorˆ acmayi tercih ediyor ˆ zellikle kuvvetli ise nafiz: Murat, running score larla ilgili link verebilecek misin? murat: ˆ u an canlˆ skor veremiyoruz ne yazˆ kki..... serhat: tref cˆ kˆ lmayacak serhat: buda olacak.. hobakan: majˆ r ataˆ ˆ na funtay: trefi cikamaz serhat: kahin gibisin Tayfun:) psridhar: can D make? looks possible.. Q andyv: 2 was headed for

20 hobakan: ikisine de fit diye oynanˆ r bu durumda.. hobakan: ˆ yle bir anlaˆ ma olsa dahi.... A andyv: looks decent but not going to get there on this bidding.. T andyv: this should still make.. rodal f: Agree, better to take the safe but to late, lmeili: if declerar chooses finese! it works psridhar: if defense clears spds and wait with spd queen entry this can get interesting decl may switch to dia and will hv to put up dia queen first up andyv: needed to lead the A and and had to duck 2nd... now, will be able to keep out of getting lead again psridhar: cl queen entry ary lmeili: If declerar plays, has to put Q lmeili: to cut the entry.. rodal f: If try the easely kill it by the Q so seems max is to come. funtay: ayni zamanda iyi el gˆ sterirmi peki? hobakan: 1 puan ile aˆ ˆ lmˆ ˆ 1 t hobakan: 2 puan siyah valeler psridhar: yes will be tested here.. Q andyv: everyone says he can t make it... I think declarer still has a chance by playing rounds of s, and then to Ace and throw in with andyv: or to J vugraphzpt: dk ara.. K.. funtay: eger anlasmiˆ iseler sistamatik olarak 1nt demiˆ tir baskan, obˆ r olasˆ lˆ k saklamiˆ olabilir ama 1.sˆ ylediˆ im daha akla yatkin murat: takˆ m listeleri skorlama sistemine giriliyor ˆ u an. canlˆ skorlar olmasa da ˆ nceki maˆ lardaki skorlar bakˆ labilecek.. J hobakan: genel oynanˆ ˆ ˆ ekli saklamak... T.. hobakan: eˆ er ortak ilgileniyor ise soruyor. serhat: pike zorluyor funtay: biz Tˆ rklerin sitili olarakmi:) psridhar: even if doesnt rise with dia queen can duck dia first.. A psridhar: ok folks i need to leave, enjoy the match thx all vahaboglu:!a koyarsa yapardˆ.. hobakan: karo empasˆ nda problem yok.. hobakan: 1 fazla olabilir hobakan: ARXXX li renk bir de A.. hemen herkesin aˆ maya baˆ ladˆ ˆ ˆ bir kombinasyon.. 2 hobakan: ne dersin Tayfun? hobakan: gˆ neyden oyun aˆ ˆ lˆ nca hobakan: 1d ˆ zerine sˆ ylendiˆ inde ise el dengesizlik iˆ eriyor.. vahaboglu: hobakan: geliˆ meler baˆ ka olabilir.. alddk2: Thanks P.. hobakan: aynen ˆ le.. 2 hobakan: ama de kˆ tˆ el gˆ stermez hobakan: bu masada ortak olarak bric oynamadˆ ˆ ˆ m kimse yok:).. serhat: extra yi yaopamadi. ama trefi bˆ rakmak guzel bir oyundu. wd Burak hobakan: diˆ er masada da kiˆ i var.:) rodal f: Have a good day:).. hobakan: en azˆ ndan daha kˆ tˆ el gˆ sterir funtay: evet, yi sordum hobakan: ama ˆ zel anlaˆ ma olabilir tabik, hobakan: biz tamamen tahmin yˆ rˆ tˆ yoruz andyv: bye.... A.... K funtay: round.php?round=2 sonuclar iˆ in hobakan: cris-cros.... funtay: D gurubuda aynen B gurubu gibi cok kari ˆ ik ilk iˆ in cok cekiˆ me var alddk2: Good morning to Jean-Paul Meyer K rodal f: Back to the last chance. Hook the.. A lebridgeur: Hievery one Ponad has won but French are strong contenders for silver medal rodal f: Hi Jean

21 Board 22 : AMU POLI GUCU 2 : IZMIR BB - o c Q 2 10 K K A A J AQ K J Q K10 J AQ J : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ X 2 p p p p p #1 :: 2,,,J #2 ::,Q,,2 # ::,2,,T # :: A,,,2 # ::,,, # ::,,J,A # :: Q,K,A, # ::,,, # ::,J,, T #10 :: T,K, K,A #11 :: J,,, andyv: 2 more... sorry h_karluk: yes but seems one swallow does not make spring for them andyv: especially when they are tiny swallows pelu: no, but on BBO u often see bad defense - so I like what did here ! alddk2: 2 both majors, a pretty common treatment after 1 1T overcall....2 h_karluk: might push into a nightmare at level..p..p.... h_karluk: sorry alddk2: Then you lose 2 as natural, but it s no great loss because if you have clubs the opponents have at least one fit in a major and will outbid you anyway..p..p pelu: I dont like..p andyv: I think most have given up using 2 as natural. h_karluk: way too optimistic alddk2: That s why 2 has been adopted as majors. xcellent treatment.. 2 andyv: over 2 for majors, do you play 2 says I have equal lenght?.. alddk2: You just pretend that RHO opened 1T and can be quite weak because your partner actually opened the bidding.. pelu: no 2 = a lot of s.. J h_karluk: if allowed means pick one, i remember.... Q.. alddk2: o Andy, 2 is natural.. 2 h_karluk: lotsa isnt? h_karluk: oh ok T andyv: In modified Landy, 2 is equal majors... just curious if anyone played it alddk2: If partner opens 1, though, 2 would ask for the longer major alddk2: But this is different because partner opened 1.. A andyv: yes, so wouldn t apply here J.. A alddk2: He should be allowed to rebid his diamonds alddk2: o it wouldn t andyv: agree alddk2: Closed room finished already.. Q.. K.. A.... alddk2: 2 is our last board J.... T andyv: hands were easier in that room pelu: wrong sh ruff s first.. T.. K andyv: too late now pelu: he know is void i H.. K.. A.. J h_karluk: i think ask Peter again tomorrow would still dislike, not only prospects are bleak but also partner may have lots of shape vugraphzps: 2 min break vugraphzps: eventresults.php?event=02 andyv: says partner I don t think you know how to bid h_karluk: already opened with 11 due to rule of 20 and stopped at 2, after why i need to worry abt anything? just pass and wait

22 Board 22 : IZMIR BB - :AMU POLI GUCU 2 o c Q 2 10 K K A A J AQ K J Q K10 J AQ J : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU 1 1 p 2 p 2 p 2 p p p p #1 :: 2,,K, #2 :: T,J,Q, 2 # ::,,,A # :: 2,,A, # ::,J,Q,K # ::, T,, T # ::, 2,, # ::,,, alddk2: France would want the match to end now. They have 12 VPs and that s what they need to be certain of silver rodal f: Interesting cards hobakan: sistemler deˆ iˆ mekle birlikte genelde aynˆ ˆ eyler. o yˆ zden.:):) funtay: masallah ˆ zgˆ r hobakan: 1 ye 2 derdim ama:):) hobakan: ona da kimse itiraz etmez sanˆ rsam:) hobakan: 11 puan li:) funtay: running skor olsaydi son maclari daha keyifli izlerdik hobakan: Tyafuncum benim son ellerim:( hobakan: deniz kenarˆ na gitmem lazˆ m:) tez: e gelinecek..1 funtay: bu masa da hizli oynaniyor, sebebi oyuncuda hizli oynamayi sever:) hobakan: herkese teˆ ekkˆ r ˆ imdiden funtay: ok funtay: saol ˆ zgˆ r funtay: nakavt maclari 1brd devre funtay: ancak son devreye 0 sayi fark varsa sayi tuˆ u kabul ediliyor ve oynanmiyor diye biliyorum, ˆ zgˆ r? serhat: rcan Metin kim? rdal ve Kudret mi?..1 hobakan: o yˆ zden artˆ k yorumcu olabiliyorum ancak.:):) hobakan: evet ˆ yle ilan edildi lebridgeur: no swing after effective defence from ast CR 2 rounds of only and queen of on first round played from dummy..p tez: artik zor:) vugraphzpt: :) tez: guneyin araya girecegini tahmin edemedim hobakan: erdal olcay ercan ve kudret metin funtay: evet serhat..2..p hobakan: kˆ ˆ ligindeki uygulama da entersan oldu aslˆ nd voldenuit: is hard to make west has to ruff times 2 and 2..2 funtay:? serhat: artˆ k sene oldu memeleketi bˆ rakal ˆ :( soy isimleri unutabiliyorum.. funtay: minor nt arasinda Gˆ khan rodal f: ould 1 killed later bid(s)..p alddk2: was some view by Grosset in the closed room, ignoring a major voldenuit: trump lead seems failed hobakan: herˆ eyi de devletten beklemeyelim funtay: :) hobakan: bildiˆ im kadarˆ yla ilk kez uygulandˆ hobakan: her maˆ VP ye ˆ evrildi funtay: evet vahaboglu: burada batˆ nˆ n eli ile 2 i stayman oynayanlar var funtay: minor destek puanlari ile fiti tercih etti..2 gravity: ben 1 konturu anlamadˆ m..p funtay: deminki bordu obˆ r tarafta -1, kozlari cekip expasi ile batmiˆ tez: kuzey derse koz atak edilir saniyorum.. hobakan: 10 puanˆ n tamamˆ ortak renklerde olunca kˆ r demedi.. funtay: pastanda gelince rahatsin:) tez: dami girmezse hastaneye kalkar..p hobakan: deseydi de T nin akˆ beti? hobakan: ankaradan salonlardan duyum alan arkadaˆ larˆ mˆ z bize aktarsˆ n

23 hobakan: biz de duyuralˆ m mesela:):):) rodal f: ot shure there. 1 ruff by first play from?..p lebridgeur: pass with a void is optimistic funtay: ancak Bob Hamman ˆ n kurali burdada gecerli. alternatiflerden biri nt ise sˆ yleyin der funtay: verdigimiz vergiler running skor olarak geri dˆ nmezmi ˆ zgˆ r:) hobakan: dˆ z bir pik eli..p tez: girsede pek parlak degil.. 2 serhat: bence iyi durdular vahaboglu: pik bloke olssa bile batˆ yor hobakan: hahhahahha:):).. lebridgeur: no real chance unless outh has the ace of.. K hobakan: herˆ eyi de yazmˆ ˆ ˆ m.. yani de ayrˆ.. funtay: akibeti belirsiz:).... T tez: ruayi oynar.. J.. Q tez: belki girilmez as hobakan: bunda da karoyu bilse bile serhat: bilemez artˆ k hobakan: koz daˆ ˆ lˆ mˆ ndan dolayˆ rodal f: hat would mean by the system? Any who know?.... lebridgeur: of course outh is worried if est had a second stopper lebridgeur: probably forcing Frank depends whet meant lebridgeur: playing on tells outh that est needs one more trick playin the of cannot be wrong.. A rodal f: One say a weak shape hand. 2 say RKC, Prefere the first or Roland? A hobakan: teams_round.php?round=2 gravity: bu mactan onceki son durum : gravity: round.php?round=2 gravity: bu gruplar iˆ in. mac. bundan sonra son maclar oynancak. hobakan: her bir lˆ venin ˆ neminin arttˆ ˆ ˆ anlara geliyoruz:) alddk2: Depends if is forcing or not. I play it as limit J.. Q hobakan: linkten de gˆ rˆ lebileceˆ i gibi son derece kritik maˆ lara girilmekte vahaboglu: blokaj sorunu kalktˆ funtay: ancak kuzey eltutunca ufak pik dˆ nmesi normal olurdu ve pik rua alinca karo bilmeye bakar.. K.. tez: le karsiya gecip oynatabilir.. T.. hobakan: iˆ eri funtay: nt de serhat: cok batti simdi tez: oynarsa alip doner.. T.. tez: yerdeki almaz vahaboglu: bakalˆ m defosarˆ ne vahaboglu: defos.. 2 hobakan: benim favori grubum B.. vahaboglu: romen miˆ.. serhat: koz oynamasˆ lazˆ m

24 Board 2 : AMU POLI GUCU - 2 : IZMIR BB o 110 c K Q A A J Q K J K10 2 A 2 J10 2 Q10 A J K 2 Q : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ p 2 2 p p p me.. Q.. J J A h_karluk: F1 = forcing one round.. Q Q.. A alddk2: e understand that you don t like 2/1 but many do. I am one of those h_karluk: i guessed there may be beginners, intermadiates kibbers.. andyv: lol andyv: meanwhile can just about claim making here.. pelu: u need "free" bids - FG style is not so flexibel - I feel I am catch i a box when FG #1 :: T,2,Q,J #2 ::,,,J # :: 2,A,Q, # ::,2,Q,A # ::,,, # :: K,,, h_karluk: so far amsun Police Forces is a bit good here andyv: were able to push to the level in the CR... opened 2 and over 2, raised to..2..p h_karluk: do we agree abt 2?..2 h_karluk: i mean are there still players wld rather use it as F?..2.. andyv: if they can do it in their system, why not?..p..p..p andyv: it looks F:).. T pelu: I exp that 2 = F1 - as in bridge :) FG is OT my style alddk2: It s not game-forcing in 2/1 either, Peter alddk2: ot after an overcall alddk2: Then you retreat to andyv: no, just a one round force pelu: no but even with no overcal : = F! for - 2 -

25 Board 2 : IZMIR BB :AMU POLI GUCU - 2 o 110 c K Q A A J Q K J K10 2 A 2 J10 2 Q10 A J K 2 Q : GOKU : AYDOGDU Closed : ARIGU : ZORLU 2 2 p p p p p #1 :: Q,,2,A #2 ::,K,,J # :: 2,Q,A, # ::,A,,2 # ::,, T,A # :: 2,K,, # :: Q,,, # ::,J,,T # :: J,,, andyv: nice D K funtay: sonuˆ itibariyle nt deneyip batmak daha iyi olurmuˆ bu elde:) serhat: :) serhat: hic degilse zon try hobakan: ara mˆ verdik sevgili operatˆ rˆ mˆ z? voldenuit: 2 = and a minor..2! tez: iceri lebridgeur: polish 2 s!..2 andyv: does 2 opener promise s? lebridgeur: do not think so lebridgeur: 2 and a minor andyv: so they can t show - majors? andyv: or -? funtay: evet hobakan: ok. vugraphzpt: az once defos karo liydi lebridgeur: I am not sure of this pair agreement but I do not think so.. alddk2: A Lebensohl now perhaps..p alddk2: They use as invitational or better with diamonds I am told sd12: Dolayˆ sˆ ile karo expasˆ yapmasˆ gerekirdi.kˆ r partajˆ na kaldˆ oda ˆ ˆ kmayˆ nca battˆ. hobakan: benim son elim.. eve gideyimn funtay: serhatide al:) funtay: nolu elde - e oynanmiˆ funtay: nakavt maclarˆ 1 boardluk devreden yapˆ lacak ve yenilen elenecek rodal f: aited for that. hat do show?..p.. rodal f: OK tez: buyuk cesaret tez: benim stilim degil hobakan: herkese iyi seyirler.. yarˆ n ˆ ok daha gˆ zel maˆ larla beraber olmak ˆ zere funtay: zor simdi deklere lebridgeur: ast witha minimum double should not pass but go to..p..p andyv: should have bid immediately? hobakan: pik oynanaˆ rsa bi swing gelir mi diyorduk. hobakan: baˆ ka ˆ ekilde geldi..p alddk2: Absolutely with -card diamond support and AK wasted.. Q tez: acisi disiplinsiz gibi gorulebilir..ortagi pastan geldigi icin acmayi tercih etti hobakan: o evde zaten:) funtay: baska secenek kalmadi nt demekten baska serhat: ne va yemekte?:).. hobakan: benim dk yolum var.:) funtay: gˆ le gˆ le ˆ zgˆ rcˆ m.. 2 hobakan: saolasˆ n, hobakan: gˆ rˆ ˆ ˆ rˆ z, serhat: bende yatiyorum.. tayfun beni istemiyor funtay: demekten beni kimse alˆ koyamazdi bu elde:) alddk2: I think the Germans bid this well.. A lebridgeur: pobably one down and good save serhat: :(.. serhat: iyi geceler.. K hobakan: :).. vugraphzpt: pikonlu claim etti.. J funtay: cok ucuz gitti bu el kanimca hobakan: trefl de kaybederek batˆ yor funtay: seyirci seni istiyor serhatcim:) Q.. A hobakan:

26 hobakan: Rua nafiz: yayˆ n programˆ yla ilgili link " " tx to Roland.... A.. hobakan: nasˆ l olsa bir yere gitmez dedi funtay: iyi geceler.. 2 hobakan: trefl kaybetmemesi yeterli idi serhat: :) hadi hoscalkalˆ n.. selamlar T tez: dam istiyor olmali.. A gravity: h oluyor sanˆ rˆ m ama denmez andyv: standard carding?.. 2 hobakan: arkadaˆ lar ban kaˆ tˆ m.. ˆ mercim bi yere kaybolma lˆ tfen.. funtay: arkadaslar bende olduˆ unu gˆ rˆ yorum ama deklere ntye getiriyor.. K.. hobakan: *ben.. voldenuit: yes they play std carding.. Q tez: 10 luya da empas yapilacak J vahaboglu: 2 aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ herhalde normal aˆ ˆ ˆ tez: 1 batacak.... T.. J hobakan: Anterin yorumlarˆ nˆ anlamakta zorlanˆ yoruz.:):) o oynasˆ n sen burda takˆ l:).. Board 2 : AMU POLI GUCU - 2 : IZMIR BB - o -1 0 c AQ J10 K10 A 2 AQ 2 J K J K J K 2 AQ Q10 10 : GULR : KUBAC Open : AAL : CGIZ X p p p p #1 :: Q,,,K #2 ::,,A, # :: 2,,J, # :: K,,,Q # :: K,,2,T # :: J,,, # ::,, Q, # :: A,,, h_karluk: i don t see any reason to afraid negative double andyv: the lovely - fit was found in CR h_karluk: i didn t like clubs andyv: after a opener, what do you do with the hand? pelu: I like the -opening in CR (est) pelu: D is a normal bid.... andyv: I don t like with only one stopper and no way to hold up on suit... means you have to have runners as soon as you get in..p...p..p..p.. Q K h_karluk: why i am supposed to bid it 1st seat? in both nonvul partner wont be happy to determine final contract with decent values pelu: bridge is bidders game - and my pd only exp a card suit in minor - and I have en very good suit h_karluk: maybe Peter agrees with me there s good and bad bidders A - 2 -