Norwegian Premier League(Round 5_11 Part 1 )

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1 Norwegian Premier League(Round _11 Part 1 ) Rogaland 1 vs Troms og Ofoten 1 Rogaland 1 Troms og Ofoten 1 Troms og Ofoten 1 Rogaland 1 N Helness E Harr N Stokkvik E Sˆƒlensmind S Helgemo W Kristoffer S Olsen W Svendsen Board Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W IMPs 1 3 N N S 0 x E S 1 0 S S N E x W 0 W 10 - W 20 W x S W S N N S 130 x S 0-10 E 0 W N W S N S x W IMPs Rogaland 1 Troms og Ofoten 1 This segment 1 1 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino

2 Board 1 NS: Rogaland 1-0 EW: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 o 3 N 3 10 c 2 N A AQ 2 2 K Q10 2 J K Q W N S E K K10 A10 3 J AQ J 3 J N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 p 3 p p p #1 E:: J,,3,K #2 N:: Q,,,A #3 W::,T,, # N:: K,,3,2 # N:: Q,,, # N::,3,K,A # W:: Q,,, # W:: T,J,A, jfaria: 3 let me think they play a semi forcing nt..1..p..3..p..p..p psyck: yes, i play non forcing nt & 3 limit raise myself.. J K.. Q A.... T K Q.... Board 1 NS: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 EW: Rogaland 1-0 o 3 N 3 10 c 2 N A AQ 2 2 K Q10 2 J K Q W N S E K K10 A10 3 J AQ J 3 J N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 1 p 2 p p p #1 E::,,A,2 #2 W::,K,J, #3 N::,3,K,A # W:: 3,Q,, # N::,,,Q # W:: 3,,A, # E::,K,2,J # S::,2,, J # N::,,A,2 #10 S:: T,,, #11 S:: 3,,Q,J #12 N:: K,,, #13 N:: T, Q, T, T nurkumkale: merhaba K.. A.. Q T.. J.. A.. arigun: milli takim secmeleri finallerinde geriden kalan devre sonun da durum ; /tbricfed/eventresults.php?event=30 vugraphzrk: sry D gsper: Very strong pairs here, though none of the super-heroes of Norwegian bridge, gsper: Brogeland in the other room though. baldfriede: If E leads A this can actually make runnerup: hi all vugraphzrk: hi all vugraphzrk: Welcome back from Norway and Premier League vugraphzrk: 2 x 12 boards in each segment 1og2/2012_1.htm vugraphzrk: live update - 2 -

3 runnerup: hi again all sybarra: hello all and welcome vugraphzrk: Hi all:) 1og2/2012_1.htm sybarra: ty and hi LIv :) vugraphzrk: segment 3 of 11 in Norwegian Premier League, 2 x 12 boards playfun: Hi and welcome vugraphzrk: Hi all :) vugraphzrk: Welcome back from Norway and Premier League vugraphzrk: Standings and liveupdate can you find here: /2012_1.htm runnerup: hi all..1 nurkumkale: merhaba..p atabey: baya fark olmuˆ gˆ rmeyeli. kimler var yorumcu bu masada? nur? nurkumkale: merhaba atabey: slm arigun: senyorler 2 devre daha oynayacaklar, acik ve bayan finalinde son devre jfaria: in open won the auction and -2 looks ok( )..2 runnerup: hi all sybarra: looks like we might play 2 s here kemperg: good morning all tez: merhaba:)..p playfun: 2 is a good and sound resting palce vugraphzsp: merhaba..p..p vugraphzrk: hi all vugraphzrk: welcome back from Norway and Premier league 1og2/2012_1.htm vugraphzrk: live opdate vugraphzrk: *update vugraphzrk: 12 boards to go gsper: I believe Hoftaniska and Charlsen live in London... runnerup: in principle this is in wrong hand,but needs lead to beat,and it hardly comes 1og2/2012_1.htm liveupdate sybarra: W wants to join in.. nurkumkale: heyecanlˆ bir maˆ olacak deˆ il mi?.. A baldjean: A lead would have hurt declarer a lot more 1og2/2012_1.htm.. 2 vugraphzrk: live-update pikonlu: slm.. runnerup: in good day both sides can make a game -here some in spades and ns -depence but no more than in red i would say atabey: slm.. K vugraphzsp: selam runnerup: south willing to bid 3nt-but then he.. erbii: tekrar merhaba.. J vugraphzsp: merhaba kemperg: no problem with position now sybarra: I can see tricks.. runnerup: common sense says no,but all likes to bid K sybarra: maybe had "red meat" for lunch playfun: It is a little unclear for South what to do over 3 playfun: And can just as well go for the contract that might give the best upside (but also the biggest downside as here) runnerup: north was competing only -but south hoped for better.. A erbii: acaba buradaki 3 %100 - mi yoksa 3nt iˆ in "last train" olabilir mi?.. 3 playfun: Give north the J insted of East and 3 nt is a good contract tez: iyi karar verdi tokay.. Q adora: slmlar.. penseur: hi all.. atabey: slm ado.. atabey: ˆ ehmus benden baˆ ka yorumcu yok mu bu masada.... tez: bence naturel sybarra: or even the j of penseur: sorry I m a little late.. Q runnerup: near passout board -so to get + is ok - ew can make 3 and ns in kemperg: S has a real max for 2 runnerup: perhaps ew only in -ok -so + score ns looks ok fabsayc: interesting, south needs to lead a trump to get his second ruff.. 3 tez: A sybarra: but j of is even better.... runnerup: needs to beat this -2.. K.. 2 erbii: EW kontratˆ nˆ yapabiliyordu, ise kˆ r shift ile 2 batacak.. J vugraphzsp: hayˆ r abi vugraphzsp: ˆ uan yok tez: 3 koz kaybedecek ama yapacak.... J tez: iyi akˆ amlar

4 vbman: slm.. A arigun: herkese merhaba T erbii: tekrar merhaba arigun: canli yayinin bermuda bowl ile ayni zaman denk gelmesi seyircimizi azaltti biraz drserhan: selam herkese tez: sonuˆ lar iˆ in penseur: I would like to welcome Frank Rodal to join me if he would like :) tez: kuzey gˆ ney presition oynuyor.. Q.. J.. K baldjean: There is a rule that goes "no evil as black as leading th from jack". If East had adhered to it the lead might have been found T.. Q.. T.. T Board 2 NS: Rogaland 1 EW: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 o S 0 c x E K 2 3 J 3 K Q A J 3 2 AK W N S E A 3 J10 Q10 Q Q J10 A 2 K N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 2 X 3 3 p p 3 p p X p p p p p #1 W:: 2,,T,3 #2 E::,,K, K #3 N:: Q,A,,3 # E::,A,, 2 # S:: J,,,2 # S:: T,,, jfaria: E opening will put NS in contention, ithink..1..p ! psyck: now?..3..p jfaria: but has a play, no?..p..3 psyck: I would have expected E to be happy to defend 3..p..p jfaria: if played by N....p psyck: not sure about, even played by N, slam is poor anyway....p..p jfaria: small gain for HH..p psyck: there is communication problem with E void in, so even double dummy, I would expect by N to fail.. 2 jfaria: both slams are poor in fact psyck: yes, especially poor after E opens the bidding making the fin likely off.... T.. 3 jfaria: in very much near 0% if not for the opening bid.. - -

5 Walddk2: images/2011ibpa.pdf page K.. K.. Q Board 2 NS: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 EW: Rogaland 1 o S 0 c x E K 2 3 J 3 K Q A J 3 2 AK W N S E A 3 J10 Q10 Q Q J10 A 2 K N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 1 2 X 3 3 p X p p p p #1 S:: J,3,,A #2 E:: J,3,2, #3 E:: T,A,, # S:: T,,Q, # N:: K,,,3 # E::,,K, # W::,3,K,T # E::,Q,,2 # S:: T,,, #10 E::,,,J #11 N:: A, Q, 2, #12 E::, Q,J, A #13 N:: K,2,, arigun2: herkese gunaydin.. A A J T arigun2: turnuvanin formati programi ve sonuclari icin tez: 1 aˆ ˆ ˆ larˆ 1+ vugraphzsp: iyi akˆ amlar pikonlu: diger masada guneyden oynanabilir, pik atagˆ na muhtemelen batacaktˆ r erbii: tekrar merhaba pikonlu: slm erdinc erbii: slm runnerup: in these kind of boards it is good to have braiks -like here when peolpe open very ligth erbii: senin de dediˆ in gibi Zabunoˆ lu iˆ in potansiyel bir 11 imp

6 kemperg: time for fireworks tez: ruayˆ ˆ ekmesine gerek yoktu..p tez: 3 e yˆ kselseler batacaklardˆ...2 erbii: Rua oynamasa yapacaktˆ 1og2/2012_1.htm liveupdate tez: 3... keseri sormuyor.. tek tutuˆ u gˆ steriyor..iyi el.. tez: tutuˆ u runnerup: hi all kemperg: using brake bt 2 also possible for tem? arigun: kuzeyde antre olmadigi icin 3nt batmiyor (muhtemeln atagina)..3 vugraphzsp: slm jbennet: passivity warning here. Never let then paly on 2 level when havong short trumps:s playfun: modern style bidding by East arigun: cikisina da ew u cok kesiyor..3 arigun: funda dbl iyi dedi tez: 3 koz kaybetmeye tahammˆ lˆ vardˆ..eldeki lar saˆ dˆ zaten baldjean: East may harbor slam thoughts after West s 2 response. runnerup: no fear by north 3 -looks like - = 1100-but penseur: hi Markku STRIK3R: Hi all arigun: den ortaginda bir marka olsa cikisa batirabilir antreler kendisinde..p tez: ˆ aka versede artˆ k defans kˆ saltamˆ yordu runnerup: seems best and unbeatable because are blocked to stop the ruff sybarra: not everyone s choice, modern or not runnerup: weak 3 -really agressive playfun: who would open that with 3 only 10 years ago? runnerup: lucky here kemperg: nice to compare this 2 with the former one:) pikonlu: tabi 1-1 diye baslayan bir sekansta deklaranˆ n rengini cˆ kabilirse.. playfun: 3 that is :) tez: 3 nt de oluyordu.. mantˆ klˆ oyun.. pikonlu: kor atagˆ na da As kor koyup pik oynanˆ rsa yine batar erbii: 1 aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ na 1 araya giriˆ i olacaktˆ r muhtemelen.. ama yine de ihtimal yok deˆ il penseur: hi Ronny kemperg: is on runnerup: at least ns -also erbii: iki Rua ve bir doubleton ile 332, iyi yˆ kseltme sˆ nˆ fˆ na giriyor bence de.. her ne kadar ˆ oˆ unluk 1M-2M ˆ -10 olarak tanˆ mlasa da, iyi yˆ kseltme olarak tanˆ mlamak daha doˆ ru.. erbii: bu deklare ile kˆ ˆ ˆ k bir partscore swingi kazanmˆ ˆ olabilir EW erbii: ˆ ˆ nkˆ NS 3 yapabiliyor andersk: Hi andersk: Welcome back to Norwegian premier leuage andersk: This is round of 11 vugraphzrk: E or W forgot CC vugraphzrk: *C tez: yerde kqj olsaydˆ..3 nt nin oluru yoktu..ama olurdu..p vbman: bayanlaar finalinde mi devre vugraphzsp: evet gsper: I believe passivity is your pet bridge hate, Johan. jfaria: S doubts to have done enough jbennet: well he did bid on the 2 level. runnerup: but normal secvence leads to 3nt and normal lead beats that -lets see STRIK3R: should not be bid, and wasnt arigun: pass dusunmemistik tabii, disardaki dagilim o kadar uygunki 3 batirmakda zor..p tez: onlu dˆ ˆ tˆ ˆ ˆ iˆ in olacak fabsayc: 3 now..p erbii: toplam lˆ ve kuralˆ nˆ n iˆ lediˆ i baˆ ka bir el.. J nezihk: ˆ aylarˆ Salvo mu ˆ deyecek? Eskiden 1Nt ya batan ˆ derdi. andersk: I think it can make tho kdr_fm: Hi all andersk: Hi karel f_aydogdu: yaparsa yapsˆ n zonda tref cok.. 3 tez: ataˆ ˆ defans iˆ in daha iyiydi vugraphzsp: :)) tam da ˆ ay alˆ yoduk.. jfaria: is a walk arigun2: gunaydin herkese.. A pikonlu: merhaba nurkumkale: Yalˆ ˆ n ˆ n bunlarˆ geˆ elim bordlarˆ ile baˆ ladˆ k:) runnerup: well if they can bid i lift my hat fabsayc: well either player could have bid it jbennet: however south didnt realize the necessity to unleash the club honors... J tez: defanstayken oyun iˆ inde de sayˆ sˆ yla - -

7 oynayˆ nca(3.)..oynayanˆ n eli sayˆ labiliyor... 3 jbennet: but to act again would hve been dangerous. fabsayc: if i had a hat, all i have is many caps kdr_fm: This looks like a misunderstanding - my guess is 3D normally shows -10 and spades clearly what west expected jbennet: and 3 sp was 1 easy henryb: Hello all. runnerup: they are reaching sky here -2 balanced together.. kemperg: S thinks he did enough biding 3, so dbl now erbii: gˆ naydˆ n.. T kdr_fm: assuming 2 = multi vugraphzrk: that s correct Karel fabsayc: a pure norwegian slam, %.. A jfaria: of c x again would be dangerous.. pikonlu: ufuk kocun elinden uc defans bulmak cok zor. Acˆ k kartta dekleran guneyi karo ile yatˆ rˆ p kartˆ yapabiliyor.. pikonlu: defos demek istedim arigun2: gunaydin erdinc pikonlu: selam erdinc kemperg: N might still hve bid erbii: koz EW iˆ in den, koz NS iˆ in den.. T pikonlu: simdi de pik as opik onayarak yapacak.... Q runnerup: good sacrifise and ns never had idea about -ofcause that suit happens to be -0,but still there shoud be no problems in that game runnerup: yes much worse that we saw some minutes ago in Romanian tables and also they were almost hopeless.... K jbennet: at the other table vbman: batti mi.. K.. kdr_fm: hit this and back a diamond then ruff the heart - if he draws the trump dummy is good K sybarra: club continuation better for e/w but maybe not easy to tell that.. T.... Q kdr_fm: that works too runnerup: ns missed a 0-0 slam -some tables might bid -needs 2-2 in 1 or QJ -duplpeton in -if = T adora: neler oldu gˆ rdˆ nmˆ nezih... playfun: not after 3 opening.... yusufb: mrbbb herkese.. J.. A adora: yapmˆ ˆ kadaroldu.. Q atabey: bu. devre dimi vugraphzsp: ˆ ayˆ ˆ smarladˆ baˆ tan Salvo :)) vugraphzsp: evet abi nezihk: evet nurkumkale: hoˆ geldin kaptan yusufb: bu sabah devre baladˆ gˆ nda.. Q.. J vugraphzrk: well done by S.. A.. K yusufb: hoˆ buldukkk nur sagol.. 2 vugraphzrk: E said W had to lead a trumph :).. - -

8 Board 3 NS: Rogaland 1 2 EW: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 o S -1 0 c S K J J 2 Q Q Q AQ AK10 3 N W E S A10 J K10 AK J 3 N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 3 p p p p #1 W::,Q,K, #2 S::,,A, #3 N:: A,,, 2 # N:: Q,2,,K # W:: Q,K,,J # N:: 3,,, J # S:: A,, 2, 3 # S:: 2, J, 3, psyck: to bad N s red suit cards are not the other way around p....p..p..p.. jfaria: same auction both rooms psyck: *too 3 Board 3 NS: Troms og Ofoten 1-0 EW: Rogaland 1 2 o S -1 0 c S K J J 2 Q Q Q AQ AK10 3 N W E S A10 J K10 AK J 3 N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 3 p p p p #1 W:: Q,2,K, #2 E:: A,,, #3 E:: J,,, # E:: 3,,J, T # W:: 2,A,, 2 # N:: Q,2,,K # W:: Q,A,, # N:: 3,,, # S:: A,, 3, 3 #10 S:: T,,Q, #11 S::,,, T #12 S::,, T, K #13 S:: J, J, K, vugraphzsp: slm, net gidince oyunu kaˆ ˆ rdˆ m.. Q.. K A.... A Q K.. Q.. K.... J J.. A J arigun: sorun su bence burada rakip jump reverse yapmisken dbl negatif olurmu atabey: slm nezih abi nezihk: slm Yalˆ ˆ n yusufb: atalay 0 imp ondeydi nurkumkale: ˆ zlem ve Dilek iˆ in moral olmuˆ tur ˆ ok bu bord sybarra: agree the 3 bid might have led partner astray henryb: 1 -P-1-2 -? kdr_fm: thats likely 00ish out whatever that is in imps

9 henryb: would be the auction if I were all four players runnerup: no ofcause not,and if you start by losing 100 -you migth be a bit more careful next board STRIK3R: yes :) STRIK3R: 100 against a defat of 3N STRIK3R: not the best start arigun: yani nasil bir el olurda 1ˆ's once pass diyip ortagini seviyesinde minor oynatacak negatif olur..3..p pikonlu: 1 trefl 1+ herhangi bir el 2celik1: 1 runnerup: needs lead to beat -if south open 3 kemperg: will N pass? tez: i bulup yaparlar mˆ?.. playfun: I also believe that it might have stoped N/S from going to a "good" that fails on this layout arigun: minorleri ayrica 3nt diyerekte anlatabilirdi..p pikonlu: koc-ozbey precision oynuyorlar nurkumkale: 1 evet jbennet: and were duly punished for it. vugraphzrk: EW play polish club henryb: 11 imps erbii: negatif olmaz ama Emine nin negatif anlad ˆ ˆ ˆ aˆ ikar..p kdr_fm: 1 a tx? vugraphzsp: evet neg. anladˆ..p yusufb: rˆ zgar mˆ thiˆ geri donˆ ˆ yapˆ p farkˆ kapatˆ p one geˆ miˆ runnerup: no fear found but this time ns makes runnerup: no-ok -no real chance now kemperg: no, 1/2 tricks tez: ufuk diye kontr demedi acaba.. Q.. 2 erbii: 1 araya girilseydi kolayca bulurlardˆ.. ˆ ˆ nkˆ Tayfun limitli aˆ ˆ ˆ oynadˆ klarˆ iˆ in 3 belki de ile tutacaktˆ tez: yine kontr demezmiydin? erbii: tabii derdim runnerup: interesting defence and play problems here runnerup: east had a system to show -bid it, but west didnt agree runnerup: perhaps only -because entryproblems and wests 10 of penseur: agree S will probably pass here arigun2: gunaydin sehmus.. K.. tez: ˆ imdi daha bˆ yˆ k risk hepsi tez: fit yoksa uˆ tun:) tez: rakibe gˆ venip kontr dedi erbii: limtli aˆ ˆ ˆ oynarken, araya giriˆ t en sonra negatif free bid oynamak gerekiyor bence.. ˆ ˆ nkˆ aˆ anˆ n kompetisyona katˆ lmasˆ nˆ beklemek hayal tez: kart leri varsa ortakta da fit var dedi erbii: bu arada negatif free bid, araya giriˆ ten sonra 2 seviyesinde sˆ ylenen renklerin nonforsing oynanmasˆ demek erbii: eˆ er lˆ ve yeterli olsaydˆ, Gˆ ney deki lˆ karoya ˆ nlem olarak ilk karo oynanˆ ˆ ˆ na yerden 10 koyulabilirdi.. A 2celik1: ne de olsa ruzgar yusufb: iyi uyumuˆ lar demekki vugraphzsp: gˆ naydˆ n.. kdr_fm: 2NT is now used by most over a revers ( S s 2 ) as a way of signing off or showing a weak hand. penseur: ha ha STRIK3R: hehe STRIK3R: not easy to pass tez: doˆ u batˆ 3 nt yapabilirdi belki ama hiˆ konuˆ amadˆ lar.. tez: negatif free bid oynadˆ m bi ara..kuvvetli ellerde bizde gˆ ˆ varken hep sorun oldu.. tez: ayrˆ ldˆ k:) kdr_fm: N was intending to bid 3 saying thats it - but S clearly had a powershouse henryb: But few (Americans) would reverse on the S hand. And over the reverse, most play that responder s first obligation is to show a decent + card suit, so we would rebid 2, not 2N penseur: very tempting to go to runnerup: this is solid -1 but 3 =10 so ok anyway.. tez: ve normaldi konuˆ mamalarˆ :).. J.. erbii: natˆ rel sistemde problem ˆ ˆ kˆ yor zaten.. fakat limitli aˆ ˆ ˆ larda efektif kdr_fm: I d say if N did not have 3 thats what he would have done - but normally 2 reverse shows at least so N "knows" they have at least an card fit STRIK3R: after North x of 2 and bid, would have been easier if South bid N over, but his hand looks very good for defending.. STRIK3R: easy to get tempted to raise that is arigun2: yarˆ final maˆ larˆ 1 bordluk devre oynanacak arigun: 1-1!nt-2 dbl sabaha kadar negatif tamam, cunki halen rakipte 10- puan bizde bizde 2 puan olabilir xxxx-x-akxx-akxx mesela, 1 - -

10 pass dersiniz olmadigi icin ama solunuz... arigun: diyince negatif dbl atarsiniz erbii: oynayanˆ n kayˆ bˆ gˆ zˆ kmesine karˆ ˆ n, kozlar bittikten sonra, kˆ rleri ve karolarˆ da elimine edip, as trefl trefl oynandˆ ˆ ˆ takdirde kontrat yapˆ labiliyor jbennet: its the 2 level that is a no no. penseur: surprised he ruffed low here runnerup: -you can always say now that better try game,because they beated you in 3 anyway henryb: This is a classic dummy reversal hand: AK throwing a, ruff, A, ruff,.. J arigun2: final maˆ ˆ ise 1 bordluk devre oynanacak toplam bord.. T kemperg: :) erbii: trefl ataˆ ˆ ndan sonra, kˆ r dˆ nˆ ˆ ˆ ne dikkatsiz deklaranlarˆ n batabileceˆ i bir eldi.. 2 arigun: buradaki temel fark, rakibin jump reverse u runnerup: hmm-seems to be a way to beat 3 playfun: Hard for South to x, he must believe his K to be dead meat.. A.. tez: ben 1 aˆ ardˆ m Q.. 2 tez: lerimi de zorunda kalmazsam gˆ stermezdim erbii: Batˆ As trefle Ruasˆ nˆ debloke ederse, yere geˆ ip valeyi uˆ urmak kafi gelecek erbii: fakat bu elde, karo valeye kaybederseniz, pik dˆ nˆ ˆ ˆ ile lˆ vede kalˆ yorsunuz.... K tez: dama gelirse. ya kayˆ p i kaˆ ar..en basit oyun bu heralde henryb: you will still get to ruff a, taking three top tricks, three ruffs in hand, and four trumps in dummy.. Q.. A tez: iyi lˆ renk varken hep lˆ rengi aˆ ˆ yorum../ ellerde henryb: When split, you get an eleventh trick kdr_fm: N is combing his chances of Qx with east here and if that doesnt work s 3/3 nurkumkale: merhaba.. tez: tayfun yinede demeliydi bence..ortakta kˆ sa varsa kesin olur..... A tez: ortakta tek yˆ beklemek zor atabey: selam nur hoˆ geldin T erbii: ve 3-2 karo olma ihtimali kˆ r empasˆ ndan yˆ ksek.. fabsayc: wrong runnerup: should have taken away vugraphzsp: merhaba.. Q.... nurkumkale: hoˆ bulduk:) teˆ ekkˆ rler pikonlu: ve rua.. pikonlu: :) kdr_fm: well played good line.... T T.. K.. J.. J.. K

11 Board NS: Rogaland 1 - EW: Troms og Ofoten 1 o 2 S c 1N E AQ K10 3 Q J 3 2 K A 3 J 2 W N S E J J 2 AQ10 K10 Q K A N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 p 1 1 p p 2 p p 2 p p p #1 W:: Q,,A,T #2 E::,2,T,A #3 N:: 2,,Q, # S:: 2,,K, # N::,,T,3 # S::,,, # W:: J,,,K # S:: T,Q,, - - Walddk2: 1og2/2012_1.htm running scores p..1!..1..p psyck: W s pass likely denies 3+ jfaria: N will pass, ithink jfaria: what about E?..p jfaria: contract looks ok to me..2..p jfaria: Helness desagrees...p..2..p..p..p jfaria: split makes it hard.. Q.... A.. T psyck: 1 over call did not work so well here, helping EW find their best spot & getting NS to a contract likely going down jfaria: poor quality of suit didnt help Helness to the right spot T.. A Q K T.. 3 Board NS: Troms og Ofoten 1 EW: Rogaland 1 - o 2 S c 1N E AQ K10 3 Q J 3 2 K A 3 J 2 W N S E J J 2 AQ10 K10 Q K A - - N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 1 p 1 p 1 p 1N p p p #1 S:: 2,Q,K, #2 N::,,T,A #3 W:: Q,,,K # S:: 2,T,A, # N:: J,,T,3 # N::,K,A, # S:: Q, 2, 2, # S:: J,, 3, # S::,K,, #10 W::,,, 3 #11 W:: 3,,A,T #12 E:: Q,J,, #13 E::,, J, pikonlu: trefl rua dam icerdeye oynadi J K.. T.. Q atabey: sen kadˆ nlarˆ bizden iyi bilirsin. nolur bu maˆ vugraphzsp: :) runnerup: but declarer couldnt read that endsituation either xenya: hello everyone playfun: Looked like a strange sequence of play to me playfun: risking losing the K I mean henryb: this line would have been less successful if trumps were 3-1 runnerup: this looked makeable by squze in / penseur: agree Markku erbii: bence masadaki deklarasyon ile agresif

12 atak iˆ in geˆ erli hiˆ bir sebep yoktu..1 nurkumkale: iki takˆ mda iyi oynuyor bence bekleyip gˆ receˆ iz baldjean: Hi Vladimir atabey: cevat yˆ lmaz diyarbakˆ rdan yorumcumuz. hoˆ geldin :)..p cevaty: tˆ kler ata bey jfaria: was it -1? xenya: hello Jeannie erbii: Onˆ r ikili trefle gˆ re daha dˆ ˆ ˆ k bir yˆ zde..1!..+!h sybarra: this might be first pair to 1 nt kind of hand arigun2: statuye gore 1 haftalik eleme sonucu acik ve bayanlarda ilk cift aralarinda takim olusturarak yari final ve final maclari sonucu milli takimin ilk 2 cifti turnuva sonucunda...p arigun2: secilecek tez: kuzeyin eliyle girmemek normal pikonlu: evet, atabey: seyirci hep kafa kafaya gitsin ister. zabun biraz kapatˆ rsa ˆ ok heyecanlˆ son devre olabilir runnerup: here succeeds,but difficult to bid - and is it good contract -no -but suxsesfull kemperg: looks like transfer Walsh pikonlu: sirttaki onor ikili mi yoksa icerdeki KQ mi?..1!..!s, denies 3 supp in!h erbii: Gˆ khan ˆ n bu pasˆ benim kˆ rlerim var manasˆ na gelmiyor mu? atabey: iki takˆ m da iyi gerˆ ekten. ˆ ok zevkli bir devre olucak daman: Hello everyone nurkumkale: evet..p vugraphzrk: 1down yes STRIK3R: east will pass, dangerous hand to get involved with penseur: do you know if N/S play ACOL? STRIK3R: they dont play acol penseur: ok tks STRIK3R: they open 3, if penseur: ha ok great runnerup: if north passes -ew can enter in 1nt/2 both making -so this is ok arigun2: ancak acik kategoride takim olusturmadaki problemlerden dolayi ilk elemelri 1. ve. bitiren ciftler turnuvadan cekilmis onlari yerine. ve 10 cift dahil edilmistir..1n erbii: - majˆ r ve kontrollˆ bir 11 puan bana gˆ re her pozisyonda aˆ ar el sˆ nˆ fˆ nda.. bu elle kimsenin pas geˆ eceˆ ini sanmˆ yorum erbii: fakat trefl ˆ ˆ kˆ lsa da, takˆ m maˆ ˆ mantˆ ˆ ˆ ile, kˆ r dˆ nˆ ˆ ˆ ne As konup kozlarˆ n bitirilmesi gerekiyordu.. sonra ˆ ok aˆ lanˆ r, kˆ smetsizim kˆ rler -1 de ˆ ˆ kar mˆ diye pikonlu: gelmiyormus demekki jfaria: 1 2 2, what else? vugraphzrk: 2S, 2H and 2D tricks baldjean: by E-W appears to work here. 1og2/2012_1.htm tez: rengi fena deˆ il ama girmemek iˆ in ˆ ok sebep var..p yusufb: rˆ zgar yapar gsper: So you couldn t follow the play either? It is fast all right. Jacki: Welcome George Holland who will be commenting for us yusufb: de..p..p vugraphzrk: he claimed baldfriede: brb jfaria: cant see how declarer lost 2 but ok kemperg: = ; = and =D kemperg: runnerup: yes and frow that side (east) 1nt is very difficult to beat tez: 332 daˆ ˆ lˆ m..puan az.iˆ e yaramaz damˆ var... 2 yusufb: ama bulmak zor nurkumkale: 12 geldi 2 numaradan nurkumkale: ilginˆ olmuˆ iˆ erde sekans playfun: Nice contract and it should make daman: D was a bit frisky daman: you almost forcethem to doubleyou daman: leaving them no option daman: and red vs white is too dangerous jbennet: Q runnerup: this will be down by ruffs xenya: it is but a poor contract as has been mentioned baldjean: You were faster than I, Markku :) 1og2/2012_2a.htm 2A 1og2/2012_2c.htm 2C 1og2/2012_2b.htm xenya: 2 X wouldn t have been bad either -- for EW xenya: 2 i meant daman: but they had better cash their club right now

13 kdr_fm: The combination of ATx opposite Jxx basically requires declarer to guess who has Hx and play accordingly - I ll have to check suitplay to see iwhat the best statistical line vugraphzrk: two-way checkback here, called xy- NT on norwegian tez: ataklarˆ nˆ z nasˆ l diye sorar mˆ :).. K vugraphzsp: henˆ z sormadˆ :) tez: okay da kˆ tˆ diye cevap verirdi:) vugraphzsp: :) yusufb: nt minorlere pas demiˆ.. vugraphzsp: 1. boardun iˆ inde de potansiyel IMP var runnerup: if east is thinking -he has learned nothing -he was -and now ns makes + kemperg: Its my system, works well runnerup: needs j now 2celik1: 1. board 12 yazabilir Atalay a.. hantveit: Hi all athene: hi good afternoon everyone daman: Hi Bill daman: Hi Trond henryb: problem is not how to play the but how to guarantee 10 tricks. the line I suggested is guaranteed as long as no one ruffs the first two hearts or the first diamond runnerup: no -but if blacks are -2-both -you cant beat it -so risk like that can be taken.. runnerup: cant tez: larˆ tahsil etmeleri gerekiyor ˆ nce.. T.. A jbennet: east hand not good enough to force to game. gsper: Any idea what 3 meant? erbii: en iyi defans Rua kˆ r.. Q.. atabey: sen ne derdin 3d ya nur tez: yerin boˆ unu ortak dˆ nmediyse benim dˆ nmemin bi sakˆ ncasˆ yoktur.. vugraphzrk: Boye seems to be unsure about pd s double athene: north would have pulled to a -card major tez: yani ikisi de oynayabilir ˆ u anda.. K tez: hastaneye kalkmayacak..1 iˆ eri ile yˆ rtar 1og2/ruterinorge.htm butler vugraphzrk: for 1.th and 2nd division runnerup: last chance for tez: milli takˆ m seˆ meleri ikili olarak baˆ ladˆ..son ˆ ifte inince herkes kendine ortak aldˆ..ve takˆ m maˆ ˆ oynanˆ yor arttˆ k.. 2 kdr_fm: 2 denies 2, and I guess a min - so east knows they have no fit and 2 at best.. T runnerup: i mean out of first board now partner had support -so only -100 nurkumkale: Kadˆ nlarda ATALAY ˆ nde. devre baˆ larken.. A.. erbii: yerin antresini ˆ ldˆ rmekle karo rengi sona erdi.. J arigun: guzel kontrat hatta bile fena degil ama disarda cok kotu bir dagilim var daman: -1 vugraphzsp: diyecekler sanˆ rˆ m ten sonra.... T tez: merhaba:) arigun: merhaba tezcan vugraphzsp: merhaba erbii: Emine kozu trefl yaptˆ ve Q ile ilgilenmedi.. bence ortaˆ ˆ ndaki Rua ˆ de anlamadˆ ve pike eldeki kˆ rˆ kaˆ ˆ p kaˆ amayacaˆ ˆ nˆ dˆ ˆ ˆ nˆ yor erbii: hg Tez hantveit: I cannot see the cards. Is it only me? erbii: As! ˆ ekip defos ettirse ve sonra dˆ nse bir lˆ ve daha alacaklardˆ.. 3 gsper: Singleton, one kib says. daman: yes runnerup: it was very difficult -too difficult this time tez: 2 iˆ eri ˆ imdi.. athene: a bit more awkward though daman: I can see them hantveit: ok, brb erbii: EW belli ki NT ye attitude atak oynuyorlar, yani sayˆ belirtmek yerine (.bˆ yˆ k) atak renginden ˆ mit besleyip beslemedikleri bilgisini veriyorlar.. K tez: pek mantˆ klˆ deˆ il..koz dam dˆ ˆ arda tez: mantˆ klˆ tez: defans yˆ oynamalˆ ydˆ en ˆ nce tez: ben olsam ˆ akarˆ m ˆ imdi tez: yˆ oynarˆ m..yoksa yatarˆ m arigun: kazansa bile dusmuyor.. A arigun: cok iyi konustu emine-funda ama sanssiz el erbii: ben kozu ne ara pik yaptˆ klarˆ nˆ anlamadˆ m.. tez: kozu yapmadˆ lar tez: ˆ ok iyi kontrat arigun: muhtemeln elden alacak yere antre

14 icin runnerup: can south read the message out of 2 - no -but still time erbii: bu sebeple.bˆ yˆ k deˆ il, en kˆ ˆ ˆ k marka 2 li atak edildi.. Q.. 2 arigun: 3 tur koz uzerine gidecek ama 1. surpriz.. 2 erbii: bu anlaˆ mada, bˆ yˆ k marka ataˆ ˆ o renkten ˆ mit beslenmediˆ i bilgisini veriyor.... J jbennet: so 3 clubs = sigelton then spwas either a huge overbid or Gf had been established kdr_fm: Everything is lying well for declarer though so *could* if you are in it make... chance os a swing here - pushy though - but the vul is very tempting.. tez: ˆ u anda kaynar sular:).. 3 arigun: muhtemelen burada cok fazla imp alisverisi olmaz cunki da yeterince batiyor sanirim defans atlamazsa tez: baˆ ˆ ndan aˆ aˆ ˆ dˆ kˆ ldˆ arigun: -1 olsa yeterdi playfun: A to hand and a smal.. tez: halbuki sakin oolmasˆ lazˆ m..diˆ er ekipte aynˆ kontratˆ oynayabilir.. tez: ya da oynamayˆ nca yine 1 iˆ eriye dˆ ndˆ.. K erbii: sayˆ alˆ ˆ veriˆ i olmasˆ muhtemel 2 ve 3 nolu boardlar egale gitti, her ne kadar farkl ˆ kontratlar oynansa da.. arigun: kontrol ediyor cunki disardaki herhangi bir dagilmi.. jbennet: it takes lots of guts to respond only 2 spades on easts hand (showing -11) vugraphzrk: double explained as one trick.. arigun: demekki dogru kontrat mis :).... arigun: bence artik li majoru birakip li minor oynyalim bundan sonra kemperg: well defended A.. T.. Q.. J.... Board NS: Rogaland 1 - EW: Troms og Ofoten 1 13 o x W 0 c W 10 0 Q AK Q J K J N A 2 W E K 2 A J 3 S Q K Q 12 A J N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 X p p p p X p p p #1 N:: T,J,Q,K #2 W:: K,,2,3 #3 W::,Q,A,T # E:: 2,,Q,3 jfaria: 12 tricks now J.. jfaria: 13 in closed :)..1.. jfaria: will the brisk preempt guide E?.... jfaria: hard to who the board belongs to.....p..p....p jfaria: colours may have create a FP situation..p....p..p..p.. T jfaria: unluckyly Helgemo psyck: it was surely not a forcing pass situation i think.. J.. Q.. K.. K Q.. A.. T.. 2 jfaria: colours are tricky :) psyck: yes, FP agrements are complicated even for regular partnerships jfaria: in general terms the only way to decide jfaria: i mean vuln vs nvuln jfaria: assuming were bid to make..... Q

15 Board NS: Troms og Ofoten 1 13 EW: Rogaland 1 - o x W 0 c W 10 0 Q AK Q J K J N A 2 W E K 2 A J 3 S Q K Q 12 A J N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 1 X 3 p p p p p #1 N:: T,J,Q,K #2 W:: K,,2,3 #3 W::,Q,A,T # E:: 2,,Q,3 tez: nevzat aydoˆ du ve ˆ mit tarhan seˆ meleri birinci olarak bitirdiler tez: ama ˆ ekildiler atabey: ˆ zlemin eliyle 1NT aˆ ardˆ m ben. ne dersiniz nur cevat? atabey: 1 varmˆ ˆ zaten. ben 1 saydˆ m tez: dediˆ im senaryo..ˆ imdi ortaˆ ˆ n kartˆ na ˆ akmak zorunda kaldˆ ve yattˆ tez: bu tip ellerin deˆ eri imp den daha fazla nurkumkale: 3 derdim atabey: ben hemfikirim ama 3 de bir seˆ enek playfun: a bread and butter runnerup: =300 sybarra: yes may see the save if they get into bidding playfun: They will! Hansen opened 3 earlier, and I m sure he will jump in in kdr_fm: yup 3nt is cold on the cards STRIK3R: all players at this table are good players, I woulden worry about the quality :) penseur: they are good and fast :) runnerup: but j saved the day -nicely still -1 wd nurkumkale: :)..1 gsper: In 2/1 systems you sometimes have to GF with insufficient values, for lack of something intermediate. vugraphzrk: I agree with STRIK3R tez: sebebini tam bilmiyorum.. tez: nafiz/tokay salvo/enver ile eˆ leˆ ti runnerup: east jumps to 3 if i understand -by seeing some biddings STRIK3R: :) atabey: pas 3NT olucak..3 tez: moral faktˆ r tez: kendin oynarken 1 el eksik alˆ nca acˆ sˆ daha az oluyor defansta fire vermekten runnerup: here north has to switch to -and to do that he needs to jumps in with K -to bat - not so easy hantveit: or -12? kemperg: interesting down losing Q runnerup: slam time -not the best but 12 in or -and ns ofcause opens and so on.. kemperg: normal to play N with long s for less s tez: bakalˆ m kˆ tˆ giden 2 bordtan sonra sakinliklerini koruyabileceklermi?..! pikonlu: diger oda karo oynuyor bir onceki boardu tez: en azˆ ndan benim iˆ in ˆ yle daman: no idea pikonlu: ve zabunoglu one gecti..p jfaria: W making a shot base on lenght.. gsper: You cannot accuse W of passivity here. tez: okay gˆ khan levent toygar ile.. nezihk: yapmak iˆ in mi, yoksa olasˆ bir He baraj mˆ jfaria: in fact very probable to find fit baldjean: I don t like 1nt openings with card suits. arigun: ilk board kotu ama ikinciye cok kotu bakmamak lazim masa psikolojisi olarak..p arigun: batar cok oldu evet ama heran diger masada da olabilir hantveit: north showing max with support daman: very difficult to commentate without a CC to look at runnerup: if you find -and see north for 1 in that suit -you perhaps dont play him for 1 also arigun: daha iyisi ayaklarin dbl diyip 00 alabilir

16 atabey: karolarˆ alabilicekler mi bakalˆ m. yada ˆ zlem ˆ apkadan tavˆ an ˆ ˆ karˆ cak nurkumkale: 1 numara egale gitti sayˆ kazanˆ labilir diye dˆ ˆ ˆ n nurkumkale: dˆ ˆ ˆ nˆ yordum playfun: And the "par" contract is reached vugraphzrk: E is a young player :) erbii: majˆ rlerde Dx ve xxx, NT demek bana pek uymuyor..p arigun: ben olsam mesela perdeden eglip wd partner derdim, veya skor kagidinda skorun yanina "+" isareti koyup rakibin moralini bozardim :) runnerup: this game is hopeless so no defence problems xenya: well it s a balanced type, with strength in the short suits, so... runnerup: yes double was the rigth decision inspite of fit playfun: Bids like he has stolen the deck at times :) runnerup: normal lead beats this -south upgraded a bit by 3nt -but perhaps north raises anyway..p xenya: decsribes the N hand well enough, in one bid tez: tayfun/ufuk okan/irfan ile..p hantveit: 3h retransfer STRIK3R: A of on the right spot, wont take long runnerup: i agree that -was just a good place for another 00 or so,but ofcause you cant surrender when opponent stay slow even if it pays every now and then tez: NS ekip..kuvvetli oynuyor... T runnerup: this is safe level kemperg: making now atabey: ilk piki alˆ p kˆ r pasˆ atarsa as karo karo defansˆ imkansˆ z bence.. J fabsayc: not hopeless, heart to ten tez: iyi lˆ minˆ r varken 3 nt mantˆ klˆ..ama doˆ unun eliylede 3 e 3 nt mantˆ klˆ deˆ il.. Q cevaty: al dˆ nmese bien olur tez: 1 aˆ ˆ ˆ larˆ 1+ nezihk: ben baˆ tan 2 spi tercih ederdim runnerup: true --after this start -- are high already -so can he manage to do that -i doubh that hantveit: I am told always tez: dam alˆ nca vale dˆ ner mi nafiz?.. K jfaria: N light opening was met with an agressive balance by W gsper: Did 1 show or are they playing Norway Standard? baldfriede: Back vugraphzrk: + is norwegian standard hantveit: spade trick, ruff, heart and a club daman: looks doomed kdr_fm: This will be intersting - If N ducks the and finesse can make kdr_fm: why woyuld you finesse though? henryb: he is unlikely to take the finesse runnerup: and ofcause you take 12 now -lead helps to see sing erbii: Tokay artˆ k Gˆ ney de birden fazla koz olduˆ unu biliyor, Dam pik ile baˆ layabilir.. K.. ralfwil: good evening everyone.. 2 gsper: Oh, I thought Norwegian standard was jbennet: well done west in a way, (but he was antipositoned he knows that heart ruffs will be overruffed. ) nezihk: 1 nolu bord da 1 Nt ters taraftan oynanm ˆ ˆ ve olmuˆ.. jfaria: of c jfaria: W needed to strat a crossruff... erbii: fakat bu aslˆ nda iyi bir oyun deˆ il ˆ ˆ nkˆ, o durumda hem valeye hem rua koza kaybetme riski var.. Q STRIK3R: dont think there is place to play for Q of in west to avoid the play, the % will be against you.. A jbennet: so had met a pair playing TO x then the one with doubleton sp had med just that, and his had converted it... T jfaria: start* tez: yusuf/okan mustafa/... 2 erbii: precision veya + lˆ majˆ r atabey: yaptˆ gitti. ˆ ok zordu defansˆ. hatta imkansˆ z. kdr_fm: Technically he was better of cashing a high but he didnt want to tip off the defenders to his strength there.. arigun: gulerin yerinde olsam 2nt -3nt derdim, 1-2nt diyen ortaga karsi J ile korkmamak lazim, muhtemelen ortakda 3+ de var.. Q baldfriede: Well vone by N. vugraphzsp: aˆ masa M s iyi idi :).. 3 baldfriede: done* jfaria: with no entries to establish the crossruff was the only way to tricks runnerup: no

17 runnerup: now nothing helps any more hantveit: there is not for us to say - so that is why we dont say much. vugraphzrk: 2min break kemperg: off coarse, lost my concentration, trying to find their CC vugraphzrk: no CC on the internet Board NS: Rogaland 1 1 EW: Troms og Ofoten 1-13 o W 20 c W 0 0 AK J K10 Q K10 10 A J 3 2 W N S E Q 3 2 Q 2 K J A J 3 2 Q A10 3 N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 p 2 p 2 p 2N p 3 p 3N p p p p #1 N::,3,K, #2 S:: J,Q,2, #3 W::,,Q,3 # E::,2,A, jfaria: i think it was not the case, Helness just wanted to put some pressure in the auction..1..p..2..p jfaria: easy time for EW now if thy dont overbid..2..p..2n!..p..3..p jfaria: not the best fit, but under control..3n..p....p..p..p psyck: ya, any suit would have worked

18 Board NS: Troms og Ofoten 1-13 EW: Rogaland 1 1 o W 20 c W 0 0 AK J K10 Q K10 10 A J 3 2 W N S E Q 3 2 Q 2 K J A J 3 2 Q A N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen p p X p p p p #1 N:: A,, 2,T #2 E:: Q,2,, #3 E:: A,,,T # E:: 2,,,K # N::,3,K, # S:: J,Q,2, # W:: A,, 3, 3 # W:: K,T,, erbii: yerden kˆ ˆ ˆ k baˆ layarak Gˆ ey deki koza ˆ nlem almaya ˆ alˆ ˆ tˆ K.... J.. Q Q A.. tez: tanˆ mayanlar iˆ in yazayˆ m..kuzeydeki oyuncu(sen) eˆ im(karˆ m) olur..dolayˆ sˆ yla tarafsˆ z yorumcuyum:) pikonlu: 2. opsiyonu 1 karo acˆ yorlar, 2 acˆ ˆ ˆ nda lu major olmuyor tez: nafiz bazˆ 1 leri NT aˆ maz erbii: bu deˆ il herhalde adora: u varken batˆ ldˆ nezihk: Enver Q kˆ rˆ gˆ zel oynadˆ hantveit: losers + =1. 2-1= tricks hantveit: a 22/1 battle comming up hantveit: ew holds the spade, spades is playable, but dia K offside daman: I must leave everyone bye for now vugraphzrk: brown sticker is a convention that demands special defending hantveit: loser count method tells you to bid game here. Points tell you to stop vugraphzrk: /?set=a &type=1&l=2af33a pictures kdr_fm: abit of excitement here runnerup: in first board south bid 3 to 3 and north bid -which looks a good contract, but 2 loosers + ace this time so price was 1 -- here south bid really hopeless 3nt but... runnerup: east had cards to balance -sometimes ew makes something not this time penseur: 23 IMPs for ««««««««vest- Agder in first 2 hands arigun: sikayeti olanla ozelden mesaj atmayip direkt 1 arayarak ihbar etsinler :)..1 pikonlu: biraz degistirmiˆ ler kdr_fm: I predict - cant see west stopping if his partner opens 1og2/2012_1.htm premier league..p..2 atabey: bu elleri geˆ me programˆ yok mu..3 nurkumkale: :) yusufb: kanlˆ bord tez: 2 ten fazlasˆ olmuyor..p atabey: salvo gene bi konvansiyon bulmuˆ nezihk: 2Dyu nat oynuyorlar herhalde vugraphzsp: 3 = ADT3 RVT2 RT miˆ :)) nurkumkale: :) runnerup: a lot of games on ew playfun: 3 nt comming up.. STRIK3R: 3 puppet now yusufb: iyi baraj -2.. nurkumkale: evet nurkumkale: diyecek Hatice jfaria: dont know what 3 means, but not what N wanted to hear sure gsper: 2 was presumably 2-suited. What is it called in Norway? jfaria: if 2 suits, 3 told story? vugraphzrk: Tartan is it called kemperg: ty Liv vugraphzrk: np 1og2/2012_1.htm erbii: 3 pas geˆ veya dˆ zelt.. ˆ ˆ nk ˆ 2 -+minˆ r gˆ steriyor..p erbii: karolar -3 ise pik rengini saˆ lama - 1 -

19 ihtimali kalmadˆ.. defans 3 karo-2 pik alˆ r.. eˆ er - ise hala pik ˆ stˆ ne oynamak mˆ mkˆ n.. fakat deklaran 1.lˆ ve sonunda karar vermeli, karolarˆ n kaˆ kaˆ daˆ ˆ ldˆ ˆ ˆ na erbii: eˆ er -3 karoya kanaat getirirse, partaj trefl veya kˆ r empas + -2 trefl kendisini lˆ veye getirecektir atabey: sˆ persin sehmus :))) 1og2/2012_2a.htm 2A runnerup: looks best -and found -in good day some migth be ok tez: 2 ten fazla olmaz ama 3 nt ataˆ ˆ na yapˆ labilir.. tez: 3 dermi funda ˆ imdi? fabsayc: 1 tranfer response not accepted nezihk: niye H demedi Enver o zaman? hehe..p yusufb: ten korkuyo playfun: and as we can se they use the more and more populat transfer ater i openings erbii: araya giriˆ ten sonra yeni rengi forsing oynuyorlar belli ki.. bu durumda Funda nˆ n 2 demesi iyi araya giriˆ gˆ sterir mi?..p pikonlu: 2,, 2 ve 1 almaya gitmek mantikli gozukuyor erbii: bence de, ˆ zellikle lˆ ataˆ ˆ ndan sonra, -3 karo olma ihtimali ˆ ok daha yˆ ksek atabey: buna batarsa bi dˆ nya konuˆ ur ˆ zlem dˆ ˆ arda :) nie 3 dedin sana ne... vugraphzsp: :)) vugraphzsp: sistem karˆ ˆ tˆ :) runnerup: even after this start = tricks task is difficult - looks easy,but fabsayc: operator, last score is wrong yusufb: 2 pastan biri gecse oluyodu..p jfaria: i m told y gsper: Ty, Marta. jfaria: that N knows S has and max 1og2/2012_2b.htm 2B 1og2/2012_2c.htm 2C tez: merhaba:).. A.. vugraphzsp: sanˆ rˆ m batacak :) nurkumkale: turnuva boyunca koz partaj deˆ ildi:) size oynanan hariˆ Yalˆ ˆ n nezihk: anladˆ m hantveit: dos she have a chance with trumph shift? If she finds dia K? I still believe vugraphzsp: merhaba, hg abi.. 2 tez: yok artˆ k..2 boˆ la diyeni gˆ rmedim drserhan: ataˆ ˆ na da rakip 3 nt yapar tez: neyse gˆ ney 3 nt dememiˆ runnerup: that lucky was bid -west sayd about his weak hand and (1 point) and east pushed him to -all well this time.. T runnerup: and now slam -if you would have been in that --ok never realistic,but nicely 12 in you need those tricks -that is only possible (12 )in here runnerup: who cares about or whwn you have and more tricks in that tez: kimse yok sandˆ m buralarda:).. Q kemperg: in OR too, start tez: morali dˆ zelir ˆ imdi ns ekibin.. 2 arigun: gunaydin herkese bu masa pek bi sessiz kalmis yusufb: kagˆ tlar ters olsa olurdu arigun: bravo dersen ararim 1 i tezcan :).. cevaty: oynasa batmaz atabey: 1. jfaria: looks like a good shot by NS tez: i bilmek zorunda... nurkumkale: :) runnerup: now even. trick is missing.. A fabsayc: are we here atabey: oluru varsa yapar da var mˆ.. vugraphzsp: yok gibi oluru vugraphzrk: y, N was thinking and asking hantveit: dia T, helped dec a bit there pikonlu: dedigimiz gibi, simdi sorun kalmadˆ.. baldfriede: Lucky to have stopper. playfun: time to make a coffee yusufb: oynatmakla iyi yaptˆ atalay ama sanslˆ elleri.. T runnerup: good -in 3-suits to make reliase in declarer play kdr_fm: west may now be considering a grand - add teh k to east and its cold vugraphzsp: bir tek Cengiz abi buralarda idi.. 2 kdr_fm: anyone have any way to ask for the k here specifically? atabey: -1 iyi bence d-b iˆ in. fazla batarsa imp gider.. nurkumkale: Dilekin eliyle 2 nt daha iyi deˆ il miydi? tez: yok ben tarafsˆ z yorumcuyum:).. jfaria: N couldnt aford to loose a trck to a stiff with W tez: kˆ saltmasˆ en iyisi.. K runnerup: ok -after that start 12 looks impossible - 1 -

20 kemperg: 12 no longer here too runnerup: no not 12 anymore tez: batmaz tabii de.. kemperg: only a small would have given 12 kemperg: entry problem for W hantveit: a mistake to shift to dia, and another to not cover the q. Latter is hard to see.. 3 tez: okayˆ n elinde vale olmasaydˆ kˆ ˆ ˆ k oynayabilirdi.. K xenya: yes, practical bid by E and the great trump suit.. hantveit: I still cannot see more then.. J.. Q tez: bizim ailenin tek delisi ben deˆ ilim:).. 2 xenya: plays quite well even opposite dummy s void tez: i bilebilirdi belki..ˆ ok puan ˆ ˆ ktˆ gˆ neyde.. vugraphzsp: ˆ imdi kˆ tˆ oldu gibi.. A nurkumkale: 3 nt den 12 geldi atabey: kozu yˆ kselterek davet genelde daha iyi. ortak zayˆ fsa ˆ zellikle.. K erbii: maˆ a beraberlik geldi bu boardla birlikte erbii: kontra katˆ ldˆ ˆ ˆ m sˆ ylenemez, rakip bu zon durumunda seviyesinde yarˆ ˆ ˆ yorsa, en fazla 1 batacaklardˆ r ekstra sayˆ iˆ in alˆ nmamasˆ gereken bir risk takˆ m maˆ ˆ nda.. T vugraphzsp: mola :) erbii: bence de bir mola ˆ art oldu :) athene: it might look natural to play trump now athene: but that is disastrous nurkumkale: ok.. STRIK3R: good system, having 20-21NT in 2 openings, make you able to stop in 2 i majors if your partner respond 2 in a major.. Board NS: Rogaland 1 - EW: Troms og Ofoten 1 20 o x S c W Q J 3 Q Q A J 2 10 K 3 K 2 W N S E 10 K 2 A J AK A J Q 3 N: Helness W: Kristoffer Open E: Harr S: Helgemo 1 2N 3 p X p p p #1 W:: Q,2,K, #2 E:: A,2,,T #3 E:: A,,3, 3 # N::,2,A, # S::,A,2,3 # W:: J,K,,T # N:: K,T,,Q jfaria: DD no game is feasible i think..p..1 jfaria: 3 must say something in the majors depending on agreemnet..2n!..3!......p..p..p jfaria: doubling a phantom looks the right thing to do.. Q psyck: yes, 3 some form of Unusual over Unusual K.... A T jfaria: depending on agreement 3 is a cue showing a forcing sequence in /.. A A A psyck: 3 & 3 are generally used to show limit raise+ for pd or game forcing hand with th suit J.. K.... T

21 Board NS: Troms og Ofoten 1 20 EW: Rogaland 1 - o x S c W Q J 3 Q Q A J 2 10 K 3 K 2 W N S E 10 K 2 A J AK A J Q 3 N: Stokkvik W: Svendsen Closed E: Sˆƒlensmind S: Olsen 1 p 2 p p 2N p p p p #1 N:: T,A,2,Q #2 E::,,Q,2 #3 W:: 3,, K, # E:: A,T,, 2 # E:: J,K,, 3 # S::,Q,K,2 # N::,T,A, # S:: J,,, 3 # W::,,, #10 E:: 3,,J,K #11 N::,,, #12 W:: J,,, T #13 W:: A,,Q, arigun2: ozgur bakan gelecekti ama islerini ayarlayamadi heralde.. K.. T.... Q arigun: bu arada eli diger masada 100% luk bir 3nt oynanmis tez: ama ˆ imdi biliyorki oynayan yanlˆ ˆ karar veremez erbii: ˆ ˆ yle bir sorun olabilirdi.. Okay, karolarˆ nˆ defos edip, Gˆ khan trefli alˆ nca kˆ r dˆ nse, defans ele geˆ iˆ bittiˆ i iˆ in, 2 kˆ r, 2 pik ve As karo alabilirdi mrace: Merhaba herkese nurkumkale: Merhaba atabey: selam timo :) hoˆ geldin mrace: Selam Yalcinim :) cevaty: selam Erkoˆ gl vugraphzsp: mola 3 hobakan: taraftarlar iˆ in zor olsa da:) hobakan: slm Tez hocam. yusufb: su ana kadar hersey atalay takˆ mˆ nˆ n lehine gidiyor yusufb: 12 aldˆ lar daha 1-2 elden alcaklarˆ sayˆ lar var yolda nurkumkale: evet yusufb: her el molamˆ var vugraphzsp: cay alˆ ˆ veriˆ i yusufb: her el mola vercek biˆ ey buluyolar buda baˆ arˆ :) nurkumkale: sana da ˆ smarlˆ yorlar deˆ il mi ˆ ehmuz?:) vugraphzsp: :) gerek yok ben sˆ yledim bana 1dk kada bir geliyor :) runnerup: east has been active in bidding and cost 1100 in other room vugraphzrk: W runnerup: ok west hantveit: yes, good point kjadams: Hi hantveit: hi kjadams: Could be a fun hand here. NS have the points, but E/W have the Spades. playfun: E/W is likely to compeat maybe too high STRIK3R: at least it was last time I played against them :) kemperg: still 1 imp yusufb: dilek arada fotografta cekiyomu:)..p nurkumkale: hehe:) vugraphzsp: :)) yoo tez: bakalˆ m mˆ cadeleyi kim kazanacak..1 tez: minˆ rˆ n si oluyor runnerup: here can be beaten with lead and switch,but difficult to do that tez: selamlar ˆ zgˆ r..dum tˆ s tˆ s..p jfaria: NS must find a minor game baldfriede: Yes, 3nt and both don t work jfaria: W pointed contract as the solution tez: derse nt diyecek..2 mrace: 1 1 (1 ) 3 runnerup: to make some partial like 2 /1nt you need to guess tez: inverted oynamˆ yorlar..p..2n tez: diˆ er minˆ rle inverted yapˆ yorlar runnerup: looks the one,but migth be over bid -or in 3nt = beaten with lead baldjean: Both! and 3nt will give 11 tricks here, but 3nt pays better. kjadams: undo? or east taking Vul vs not to extreme

22 arigun: bu ler davet..p xenya: 2 -- iverted raise? pikonlu: limite acˆ ˆ oynadˆ klarˆ icin, koc un eli 1pik acabilecek maksimum el.. atabey: iyi tarafa gelmedi. biz maˆ ˆ ekiˆ meli olsun istiyoruz nur :) yusufb: 2 neki nurkumkale: + yusufb: 2 olmasˆ n nurkumkale: gazilli oynuyorlar vugraphzsp: gazilli tarzˆ birˆ ey olsa gerek runnerup: 3nt +2 -nt-1 hantveit: It looks like max in spades. hantveit: Pass on 1h?? tez: kolay el deˆ il kuzey guney tekrar konuˆ mazsa..p vugraphzsp: ufak bir ara var bu elden sonra tez: hiˆ bir olmuyor runnerup: sorry 2 looks ok always -hmm now a chance for bigger money STRIK3R: surely ekren will bid his s now tez: ataˆ ˆ na batacak..p tez: ataˆ ˆ na olacak xenya: if so, not an ideal hand for it -- but nothing better available perhaps arigun: emine herseyi 3nt yollamaya basladi tezcan, bu bi taktik mi dun verilen, bastan kotu giderse herseyi yolla :)..p tez: gˆ khan ne diyecek merak ettim hobakan: :) tez: nolurdu? vugraphzsp: Nafiz abi 1nt ye dbl ˆ uzun minˆ r yada majˆ rler oynuyorlar diye piki bilemedim dedi yusufb: 1nt den sonra varda gazilli demekki 1 ede oynuyorlar nurkumkale: ˆ ok ˆ alˆ ˆ tˆ lar buralarˆ bakalˆ m ne olacak yusufb: iyi kontrat nurkumkale: evet 1 e de oynuyorlar jfaria: although NS maybe tempted to play with cards... runnerup: over -is only -1 in case that is actuall kjadams: that better hantveit: He is an aggressive bidder kemperg: OR playing very fast arigun: bilinir mi acaba yoksa kafa karisirmi.. T tez: e kontr ceza deˆ ildi nurkumkale: biz de:) At ˆ u karo pasˆ nˆ diye baˆ ˆ rdˆ m ama duymadˆ Tayfun:) yusufb: pas gecse de iyi kontrattˆ nurkumkale: modifiye Gazilli mi demek lazˆ m:)? kemperg: no 2NT by N here kemperg: W wont expect to sigletons in N runnerup: now it can be made,but can declarer see situation tez: kabak yi oynuyorlar demeyin.. A tez: aldatmak amaˆ lˆ deˆ ildi runnerup: sometimes it costs to enter in bidding but these doubles for takeout has made it easyer nowadays -but here -convention lets ns room to double for pen.. 2 playfun: N/S will be disapointed losing IMP s on this hand hantveit: Looks like 10 tricks, cannot see any danger here kjadams: Looks tough to cash the diamond playfun: Now South is too high arigun: nereden baslayacagina bagli heralde.. Q mrace: 2 de ilginc deklare mrace: kontur demesi lazim atabey: ama sˆ per zon buldu mrace: e bulmalari lazim zaten guneyin pass cok kotu bence mrace: amd DBL desede bulurlar mrace: ama* atabey: gˆ zˆ dˆ nmˆ ˆ bu kadˆ nlarˆ n. erkekler hayatta bulamaz bu ˆ tez: ataˆ ˆ dˆ ˆ ˆ nda yusufb: 1 cevabˆ max kartmˆ ˆ baya calˆ ˆ mˆ ˆ lar hakkaten nurkumkale: kˆ re fit yok biliyor ˆ zlem nurkumkale: Dilek de - i biliyor nurkumkale: 3 dediˆ inde biliyor yani yusufb: ˆ imdi sˆ nav zamanˆ bakalˆ m gorelim bence oynayacaklar yada runnerup: yes this is best -if 3-0 -still some hope -and then 3nt -hopeless xenya: nice, solid contract kemperg: starts well:) tez: demek iˆ in izin istiyordu.. vugraphzsp: pas pas pas olcak gibi ama :) tez: kendinizi o oyuncunun yerine koyun.. arigun2: deklerasyona cok yuksek seviyeden girebildiler hantveit: agree, he "knows" partner dos not hold single spade, but it is to dangerous to not try I guess. kjadams: trick one signal... west has 1 or 3 spades. best hope to set. mrace: :).. Q tez: ilk ten sonra dˆ nˆ ˆ ˆ sakata