Turkish Club Team Championship 2009(Semi-Finals 1_3)

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1 Turkish Club Team Championship 200(Semi-Finals 1_) Ankara Uni. S.K. vs Galatasaray S.K. Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. Galatasaray S.K. Ankara Uni. S.K. N N.Cengiz E N.Aydogdu N M.A.ince E A.Ozalp S C.Arigun W O.Ekinci S M.Karadeni W O.Goksel Board Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W IMPs 1 N W 1 0 N W x N E E E N W N W N N N N S 2 0 1N S E 110 N W E 40 4 E E S E S N W IMPs Ankara Uni. S.K. Galatasaray S.K. This segment 2 1 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino

2 Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K EW: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 o N W -1 0 c N W K Q2 J10 A A10 Q6 4 Q A W N S E 6 4 A 6 4 J K 2 K J 2 K Q J N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S 1 p p 1N p N p p p ahollan1: ACBL CC for Berk-Cohen available at task=view&id=20&itemid=224 ahollan1: and if you go up one level from that - you can see System Summary Form for EW Vugraphu1: I m afraid I lost track of the play here because I was rushing to change to the right set of boards - will claim as soon as play is over - I know he played spades K...A ritong: no problem, jan you do just fine, as always.. K #1 N:: T,,6,K #2 W:: 2,,K,4 # E:: Q,,6, #4 E:: K,6,4, # E:: 2,,T,Q #6 N:: A,J,,2 # N::, 2, 4,Q # W:: T,A,, # N::,,, #10 N:: Q,K,A,T #11 S::,,, harmon: hey all K p..p..1N..p..N..p..p mrace: hi ritong: hola guys harmon: is that the right score??..p.. T mrace: do u guys think we will see a lot of action this segment? mrace: yes it is ritong: i do not think so ritong: unless boards appeal it harmon: when I left last segment it was like - 2 Vugraphu1: The Meltzer players are hoping for a lot of action ritong: these players are not crazy shooters, they will probably try to swing in borderline situations, but they certainly will not create them out of the blue - 2 -

3 Board 1 this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 EW: Ankara Uni. S.K o N W -1 0 c N W K Q2 J10 A A10 Q6 4 Q A W N S E 6 4 A 6 4 J K 2 K J 2 K Q J N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S 1 p 1 p 1 p p 1N p N p p p #1 N:: 4,2,,J #2 W:: 2,,K, # E::,,T,A #4 N:: Q,K,, # E:: J,4,2,A #6 N:: 6,,A,T # S::, 4,, 2 vugrapha: hi K Q K T.. Q.. A.. J Q.. T.. A Q.. K.. A.. T.. vugrapha: i 1 rodal f: Hi all:) Nice to see u again.hi Roand rodal f: Roland rodal f: And back we are:) vugrapha: and were starting vugrapha: and we are off vugraphzuh: baˆ lˆ yoruz kandemir: selamlar vugraphzuh: Baˆ lˆ yoruz iyi seyirler baskanb: herkese merhabalarrrr siyabend: selamlar siyabend: guzel ve keyifli bir maˆ izleriz umarˆ m baskanb: adana oyuncularˆ nˆ tanˆ mˆ yorum ama Hakan Gˆ ksu eski partnerim gururla sˆ yleyeyim :) baskanb: Bˆ lent aslan da iyi arkadaˆ ˆ mdˆ r stilini bilirim benim iˆ in ˆ ok eˆ lenceli bi maˆ olacak umarˆ m herkes iˆ in ˆ yle olur vugraphzuh: Merhabalar vugraphzuh: selamlar herkese tekrar hoˆ geldiniz vugraphzuh: Baˆ lˆ yoruz baskanb: Yeniden merhaba ebeb: slm burak abi baskanb: Merci Bora hg vugraphzuh: Eskisehir den merhabalar..1..p MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz baskanb: Hakan abi belki de dˆ nyanˆ n en hˆ zlˆ oyuncusudur o anlamda kˆ sa sˆ rede maˆ ˆ bitirebiliriz ama Bˆ lent yavaˆ latacaktˆ r onu :) siyabend: tekrar selamlar keyifli yorum ve seyirler baskanb: yeniden Merhaba Walddk2: NT or 4 with 11 tricks..1 vugrapha: System Cards can be found at rodal f: Tranc for and 4. Arethe slam on then? MolvaM: ˆ ampiyonada 16 takˆ m nakavt maˆ larˆ na baˆ ladˆ lar MolvaM: bundan sonra yenilen takˆ m eleniyor vugraphzuh: tekrar hoˆ geldiniz senmel: selamlar..p Walddk2: hardly when you are off two aces..1 vugraphzuh: eskisehirden herkese merhabalar MolvaM: hangi takˆ mlar kimle eˆ leˆ ti bilmiyoruz henˆ z MolvaM: muhtemelen bu gece tbf sayfasˆ gˆ ncellendiˆ inde bileceˆ iz murat e: aynˆ anda spingold finali baˆ ladˆ seyircimiz biraz az olabili bu sefer senmel: tbf satfasinda eslesme krokisi var haans: sometimes you come and go..p..p baskanb: hˆ zlˆ baˆ ladˆ ama deklarasyona bakˆ nca bu devre vugraph taki arkadaˆ larˆ m ˆ zˆ n yardˆ mˆ na baˆ vurmamˆ z gerekece ˆ i anlaˆ ˆ lˆ yo oldukˆ a fazla alert gerektiren deklarasyon olacak gibi vugraphzuh: alertler kaˆ ˆ tlara yazˆ lˆ yor, 4cl kuvvetli kˆ rler anlamˆ nda sanˆ rˆ m, emin deˆ ilim siyabend: 4cl sanˆ rˆ m hler olmasˆ lazˆ m siyabend: kapalˆ gibi baskanb: tabii ˆ unu da ekleyeyim Hakan abi dˆ nyanˆ n hˆ zlˆ larˆ ndan biridir derken - -

4 doˆ ruyu en hˆ zlˆ yapanlarˆ ndandˆ r anlamˆ nda sˆ yledim :) vugraphzuh: yavaˆ oynuycacaˆ ˆ konusunda kendˆ sˆ yle anlaˆ tˆ k :) siyabend: bir donem ona garazzo lakabˆ da tak ˆ ldˆ degilmi burak senmel: kim dusunuyor? vugrapha: Sorry about all that, should be fine now...1n haans: what a start rodal f: Nice NS but better keep of rodal f: again and a nice spot NS vugraphzuh: selam herkese vugraphzuh: Tˆ rkiye Klupler Arasˆ Final maˆ larˆ na hoˆ geldiniz nafiz: herkese gˆ naydˆ n, hg Fikret Aydoˆ du baskanb: Merhabalar baskanb: Sˆ leyman abi hg rodal f: Y:) Sr..p atalok: slmlar herkesee siyabend: slmm ebeb: slm sˆ layman abi bircan: herkese selamlar baskanb: GS takˆ mˆ nˆ n oyuncusu Bircan ˆ ztˆ rk de aramˆ zda rodal f: EW are soooo near a slam, but...n rodal f: Resaults from the turney: /bridge/viewmasterevent2?code=0anct& header=abf senmel: agrubu e oldu, b grubug oldu,c grubu f oldu, d grubu h oldu vugraphzuh: Bulent Aslan Walddk2: A would have been much better than KQ..p Walddk2: Which goes to show that the 421 scale is just a rule of thumb april: hello everybody and good ATERNOON..p Walddk2: Easy to deal with, but far from accurate..p rodal f: Resault info for the turney: /bridge/viewmasterevent2?code=0anct& header=abf f_aydogdu: olma potansiyeli var f_aydogdu: piklere f_aydogdu: karolarˆ atarak senmel: ok baskanb: hep oyuncularˆ tanˆ tacak deˆ iliz ya Bora da genˆ milli oyuncumuz Tˆ rk bricinin geleceˆ i onlarˆ n ellerinde hg bora atalok: guzel dediler ama mesut abi 2 sp dese bitmisti arigun: merhabalar vugraphzuh: Merhabalar baskanb: ben duymadˆ m selahattin abi tˆ rk bricinde duyen tabii ben tanˆ ˆ madan ˆ ncesinde vardˆ r belki :) baskanb: 1sp ˆ zerine kontr denebilir bence Do ˆ unun eliyle april: an easy claim.. haans: funny start.. J april: and lucky siyabend: ben oyle hatˆ rlˆ yorum gibi senmel: karo donerse olur baskanb: kˆ r dˆ nˆ ˆ ˆ zorunlu batrˆ mak i ˆ in senmel: kimin caktigini bilmesi lazim senmel: kor donunce 10xxx pik buyuyor siyabend: ortakta tek karodan ˆ ˆ kmˆ ˆ olabilir baskanb: garozzo lakabˆ ˆ smail Kandemir indir abi :) f_aydogdu: sanˆ rim olacakta.. 2 baskanb: ama ˆ stadˆ n dediˆ i gibi doˆ u db da dese 2pik yˆ kseltmesi ˆ zerine zon sˆ ylemek imkansˆ z gibi.... K T Walddk2: Last chance to cash A.. A siyabend: ˆ imdi oyle bircan: devamˆ na bilinemezse batacak.. Q rodal f: If u like to follow manny tables: Click on try first and enjoy where u like:).. K.... senmel: deklaranin tane karosu olsa pik tercih etmezdi bircan: m. ali abi mˆ thiˆ gˆ sterdi Q yu, ˆ imdi Q ˆ bˆ r tarafta aranabilir atalok: h as kimde? rodal f: Had the a bit unlucky placed.. J baskanb: bence kˆ r asˆ gˆ neyde ise karo damˆ tespit edildi:) vugraphzuh: slmm Murat hg A Walddk2: Good morning to Ben Thompson.. 6 benjent: Hi everybody Walddk2: and good night to me, see you benjent: Night Roland - cu soon rodal f: For watch all matches: /client/vugraph.php rodal f: Back we are after a small... benjent: Re-hi vugrapha: sorry the internt dropped out for a moment f_aydogdu: piki almassa murat: selam Herkese atalok: kuzeyin eli as sp as cl ve 2 dam net - 4 -

5 f_aydogdu: batˆ rˆ r.... A f_aydogdu: dicektimki aldˆ.. T murat: event.php?event=1&stage=4.. murat: son durumlarˆ buradan takip edebilirsiniz f_aydogdu: gnd herkese bircan: benim yorumlarˆ m GS ye gˆ re :).. 2 Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K EW: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 o 4 x N 4 0 c 4 E K J J K Q W N S E AQ10 J A Q K J A Q6 4 2 AK 4 N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S 1 p 2 4 X p p p 4 #1 E:: K,,, #2 E:: A,6,2, # E:: 4,Q,T, 4 #4 S::,T,K,A # E:: J,Q,,2 #6 S:: J,,, ahollan1: all permuations of Ekeblad-Granovetter- Rubin-Weichsel [not on this team] play same card with changes only to carding ahollan1: this is last set of 64 board final ahollan1: 1N=good mrace: yes thats the running score as i am informed ahollan1: 2 denies MAX with +..p p harmon: a long road to hoe for Meltzer..p ahollan1: 2N=4+..p.. K A ahollan1: but i don t remember strength :( harmon: pts Vugraphu1: Granovetter showed spades & clubs, game force. Could have done more if he wanted to. Eke showed better than a minimum Q ahollan1: Harmon answer incomplete HCP, 1 cards.. T Vugraphu1: Eke asks about lead - Q or shortness ahollan1: Jan is great at getting details from the - -

6 players - but don t let her know I said that T.. K Vugraphu1: I can t get Matthew to write with a pen though, no matter what I do ritong: heh Board 2 this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 EW: Ankara Uni. S.K o 4 x N 4 0 c 4 E K J J K Q W N S E AQ10 J A Q K J A Q6 4 2 AK 4 N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S 1 p 1 2 X! 2 p p p p 4 p 4 p p p 4 #1 S::,,T,Q #2 E:: 2,A,, 6 # S::,J,, 4 #4 W:: 2,,A, # E:: A,,T, #6 E::,, K, 2 # W:: J,,4,Q # S:: J,, 4, # E::,6,T, Q #10 W:: 6,2,K,A #11 S:: Q,,4,J Walddk2: What a lucky man you are Bill, alone with 2 specs.. A.. J.. Q J bjacobs: Ah but what excellent specs they are bjacobs: And they and I know that this is the strongest table of the 4 rodal f: 24HP but on for a 6er it was baskanb: defans Sek AK kozla son iki lˆ veye girdi sˆ k rastlanan bi durum deˆ ildir baskanb: ˆ ok estetik aruf: herkese selamlar vugraphzuh: Majorbogazˆ cˆ ˆ yˆ baslad ˆ bu sete f_aydogdu: nt kadar yapar tre pasina pik basˆ na birollar haans: :) we all been there :)..1 Walddk2: It s easier to ask the audience - 6 -

7 vugraphzuh: Fethiye Bati Akdenizi 1. olarak btirdi. baskanb: pike kadar yapˆ lˆ yor baskanb: 1nt az mˆ gelri :) bjacobs: :)..p funtay: Herkese merhaba baskanb: aslˆ nda hakan abinin 4c db lˆ ˆ ok iyi karar direk 4 pik diyebilirdi ve o zaman zaten 6 pike gelebilirlerdi..1 baskanb: Merhabalarrrr f_aydogdu: ama soylenecek bir nt degil tabii rodal f: If good biiding now sac at to be done by EW..2 Walddk2: I might have opened 2NT..!..support rodal f: Hi Ben or/ and Jenny:) benjent: Today, it s Ben :) benjent: Jenny s getting her hair done, or possibly her nails. I plan to say "you look great" when she gets back. aruf: C grubunda sˆ ralama iˆ in ˆ nemli bir ma ˆ MolvaM2: bu maˆ ilk 2 takˆ mˆ n maˆ ˆ de ˆ il mi? MolvaM2: yani zaten tuzu kuru olan takˆ mlar bunlar deˆ il mi? vugraphzuh: son durum iˆ in vugraphzuh: teams_round.php?round=116 vugrapha: sorry catchin up..2 Walddk2: How much do you think the K&R thinks it s worth? bjacobs: Yes, but perhaps it s normal to admit that in public rodal f: 6 are one by NS baskanb: 4H arigun: EW 4 oluyor.. MolvaM2: bence bu maˆ ta 1 ayaˆ u ˆ ukurda olan takˆ mlarˆ n maˆ ˆ nˆ n verilmesi daha iyi olurdu. vugraphzuh: Merhaba baskanb: ˆ ok sˆ kˆ maˆ :)..p atalok: baraj iyi ama acaba 1 nt acˆ lsa 4 kore gelinirmiydi? bircan: bencede, 2 dendikten sonra artˆ k 4 demek lazˆ m haans: all card right but...p april: a lot of work to do for tricks rodal f: Hard to bid, but the spot are 4 rodal f: They did:) benjent: Nice work by Smart - getting past his 622 to like his good spades enough to invite rodal f: Back to the info:) Vug TV: /client/vugraph.php arigun: NS baraj icin zon durumu uygun degil MolvaM2: bu oyuncularˆ ˆ nˆ mˆ zdeki gˆ nlerde nasˆ l olsa seyredeceˆ iz siyabend: spler kalˆ teli olmadˆ gˆ iˆ in demedi 4sp baskanb: ˆ ekilli 1 var ama kˆ tˆ li renk kˆ salarda konsantre puanlarla 1nt makul bence murat: for those who are looking English comments, you can find them in Open Room.. vugraphzuh: Bornova ise Ege. su olarak katiliyor. april:,2,2 and 2..p haans: J lead? arigun: birazda fazla oldu gibi, e dogru karar verirse 1 batarak kurtarabilir murat: 1NT limitleri nedir Ayberg? murat: 14-16? vugraphzuh: (14)1-1 vugraphzuh: li renk oldugu icin actigini dusunuyorum. murat: li renk 14 ile 1NT ˆ lkemizde geleneksel gibi birˆ ey arigun: bu arada 4 denmis :)..p siyabend: selamlar baskanb: batˆ dan 6 yapˆ labiliyor baskanb: bu zonda 2kˆ r diyene de kˆ r az Mesut abinin eliyle atalok: mesut abi cok puanˆ olunca az konusur heee bircan: herˆ ey bitmedi april: J of lead not to good for defence..4 bjacobs: Atila de Luca and David Lusk have been stalwarts of SA for many years baskanb: 2nt pasa katˆ lmˆ yorum aslardan oluˆ an puan li renk takˆ m maˆ ˆ nda zon s ˆ ylememek iˆ in bi sebep yok bence baskanb: trefl partaj karo Q uˆ uyor f_aydogdu: sˆ kˆ ntˆ sˆ baskanb: Alpay zon arˆ yor bircan: ararken buldurabilir aruf: yada pas demiˆ ti atalok: kontur ve 4 H arigun: kupu ile yer zorlanirsa defans icin 2 1 lovesi var..p bircan: herkese merhabalar april: position for declarer is ok..4..p rodal f: So E had no help? Single and... but might hard to see senmel: puansal olarak yeterli degil ama aslar olunca teklerin karsisinda iyide fit olunca yapmasi kolay soylemesi zor f_aydogdu: var ama once - -

8 bjacobs: De Luca is the "pitcher" and Lusk is the "catcher"..p f_aydogdu: _1 dˆ sˆ nˆ yorm f_aydogdu: h diyerek a..p atalok:.sans bircan: son ˆ ans trenide kaˆ tˆ :) april: and then.. baskanb: rb bircan abi size de bol ˆ anslar bircan: tesekkurler baskan baskanb: hg selahattin abi siyabend: eyvallah burak baskanb: doktorlar kapˆ ˆ ˆ yor Orhan abi dˆ ˆ ˆ ndakiler tˆ p doktoru orhan abi de diˆ hekimi bildiˆ im kadarˆ yla siyabend: ve postacˆ da gitti f_aydogdu: karo oynadˆ gˆ nda h donduklerinde.. baskanb: bence kazanca giden yolu buldu bjacobs: i.e. De Luca is creative.. T f_aydogdu: rakibi sp getirdi haans: spade kill dia entry.. Q rodal f: Looks like an er now. Not shure murat: pike yerden kˆ ˆ ˆ k koyunca batara geldi baskanb: mesut abi koz ˆ ˆ kmaya bayˆ lˆ r :) bjacobs: Khokan Bagchi and Michael (Max) Smart are I think a first time partnership.. 2 MolvaM: genel bilgi verelim 1az MolvaM: eleme turlarˆ nda son 2 maˆ a girdik MolvaM: bundan sonra 1 maˆ daha vara ve sonra gruplarda ilk 4er sˆ rayˆ alan takˆ mlar MolvaM: nakavt aˆ amasˆ na geˆ ecek f_aydogdu: mecbur tref damˆ ezecek MolvaM: yani bu sabahki 2 maˆ 1ˆ ok takˆ m i ˆ in tamammˆ devammˆ ˆ zelliˆ ini taˆ ˆ yor.. A benjent: Watching this set may take a little dedication, if the internet is going to keep dropping out in Canberra :).. baylind: selam herkese arigun: neticede in faydasi oldu rakip batar 4 ya geldi.. 6 bircan: evet, en son disi sabah macta cekti april: needs entry for finesses.. rodal f: Why not a new? funtay: Eskisehirde Anemon Otelinde yapiliyor Turnuva, sanirim internet problemi var otelin rodal f: All resalults from the turney so fare: http: // J vugrapha: sorry havin probs with the inernet murat: defans pik atak ettiˆ i elde kˆ rleri saˆ ladˆ baskanb: merci :) ckesgin: iki onoˆ r sek arayacak K tek de olur bjacobs: very strong players.. 2 baskanb: merci bˆ lent hg :).. vugraphzuh: ˆ uanda 6. maclar oynaniyor.. vugraphzuh: ilk maˆ sonunda son durum iˆ in vugraphzuh: teams_round.php?round=11 baskanb: evet swing doˆ urabilecek bir el baylind: 6h batabilir 6 karo batmazdˆ once karolarˆ oynuyacaktˆ... A april: just in time.. Walddk2: knr.cgi?hand=k10xx+a10+akjx+a arigun: ozcan abiyi tebrik ediyoruz :) rodal f: And C.. A.. benjent: Khokan s line is not without risk, but he has communication problems, and a rd to worry about.. T rodal f: Y f_aydogdu: yok bence diger masada yapar baska turlu bir oyun yok.. bjacobs: Fair enough Roland, but maybe it s too strong for 2NT on that basis? (Given the shape).... vugrapha: sorryo miss he irs board Walddk2: yes Walddk2: np Jane. long time no see. are you well? vugrapha: i am ood Walddk2: odd or good? :) vugrapha: i am ood :) bjacobs: No typo there rodal f: Can become a er ckesgin: selamlar 1. elde benim albatros 4 in adanaya uˆ tuˆ unu gˆ rmek hoˆ oldu.. K J baskanb: Coˆ kun abi mu maˆ sensiz olmazdˆ bu oyuncularˆ n nefes alˆ ˆ ˆ nˆ bilirsin sen zannˆ mca :) funtay: ˆ lk el defansin basit hatasi ile Antalya takimina potansiyel swing kazandˆ rdˆ.. baskanb: kˆ r boˆ lanabilir april: hello everybody Q Walddk2: Bill, I promise not to mention the cricket bjacobs: oh feel free. We are hopeless bjacobs: Good for the country s soul baylind: simdi tek kˆ rˆ n yanˆ nda tane karoya oynuayabilir april: 10 tricks now.. J f_aydogdu: tek ruaya oynadi f_aydogdu: orhan abi dam 2li dusundu ve bˆ - -

9 rakti rodal f: Putted in at S for a EW T.. Q.. 6 atalok: 10 bile vermediler gencler K.. A.. Q J Board this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K. 6 2 EW: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 o E c 2 E K10 A J Q4 W N S E AQ 10 AK J J K Q J 6 Q AK N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S p p 1N p p p 4 #1 S:: K,,T,Q #2 S::,4,2,J # E:: K,6,,4 #4 E:: A,2,T,Q # E::,,, #6 N::,,A, # S::,A,, # W:: 4,, 6, A # E:: 4,Q,K,2 #10 W:: 6,2, Q, J #11 E:: K,T,, ahollan1: both pairs playing big club so other suit openings limited to max of 1..1N..p..p ritong: this an example of " borderline situation" ritong: although this kind of psych is pretty common nowadays.. ahollan1: much easier 1N bid to make when opening bidder limited - i.e. no game forcing jump shifts coming..p..p ritong: vulnerabilty is favorable, hand belongs to opponents very likely, so you try to bother them..p Vugraphu1: Ekeblad alerted - Cohen asks why - 2NT would have shown 2 places to play - this is non-correctable.. K.... T.. Q.. ahollan1: I think Granovetter had very tough decision ahollan1: Pass for penalty, 2N scramble, as described -- all look reasonable

10 mrace: so 2 nt would be scramble, not necesarilly weaker than cl ritong: pass for penalty is not envisageable being + a ton, i think harmon: especially not with a big lead Vugraphu1: Granovetter didn t correct Ekeblad s description of, but it wasn t clear to me that he heard it so may not have intended as strongly 1-suited mrace: i think they did well by staying out of game with 2 hcp harmon: n on a d guess.. J.. K.. 6 ahollan1: NS std count, upside-down attitude, odd/even 1st discard.. ahollan1:? A T.. Q A A.. ahollan1: nah that doesn t gain anything Board this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 EW: Ankara Uni. S.K. 6 2 o E c 2 E K10 A J Q4 W N S E AQ 10 AK J J K Q J 6 Q AK N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S p p 2 1N p p p 4 #1 S:: A,,,Q #2 S:: K,4,2, # E:: A,2,,4 #4 E:: K,,T,Q # E::,, 4, #6 N::, 6, J,6 # E::,J, A, # W::,2,K, # E:: Q,,, #10 E:: J,T,, T #11 E:: 4,Q,K,2 #12 W::,,6,A #1 S:: 6, T,J, april: light openings from N or E A Q.. K Q.. J.. K.. T.... f_aydogdu: ben basta bir batar demistim yalancˆ cikarmammak icin beni boyle oynadilar sanirim f_aydogdu: 6sp olan bir el murat: Fethiye iˆ in potansiyel swing eli oldu 2. el ckesgin: :) ckesgin: evet iki tarafˆ da, sˆ kˆ maˆ olacak april: S might open 1 because of rebidproblems and then bid..1n haans: easier to open that hand with 1nt (all do it)..p april: 2?

11 haans: capelli 1 suiter?? benjent: when it has the "->" in front of it, it s just for you rodal f: f u like to follow the vug by TV: funtay: Faruk ile Emre genˆ oyuncularˆ mˆ z f_aydogdu: sanˆ rim bulacaklarda baskanb: 1nt baskanb: bˆ yle bi elden nt yapmak iyi bir baˆ langˆ ˆ demektir moral olarak da :) murat: minˆ r hakikaten kapalˆ fakat NT de sˆ fˆ r el alˆ yor..p vugraphzuh: selam Hakan abi hg haans: cappelli..2 april: interesting now murat: kˆ rmˆ zˆ da NT aˆ tˆ ˆ ˆ iˆ in yanda bir onˆ r olabilir mi acaba? rodal f: On again for a hard one..p ckesgin: selamlar baskanb: batˆ nˆ n rebidi zor baskanb: 2kˆ r forcing oynuyolarsa eˆ er baskanb: fit kontru batˆ yˆ kurtardˆ :) vugraphzuh: e-w zayˆ f nt oynuyorlar ckesgin: nt aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ na katˆ lmˆ yorum ayrˆ ca olmalˆ ydˆ funtay: 1Nt forsing..p arigun: selam coskun april: could just get home,inspite the bad break..p haans: opps not happy??? april: even without finesse hikmetd: Tˆ m seyircilere hoˆ geldiniz diyoruz vugraphzuh: pik rua tek oldugu iˆ in yapmis olabilir. vugrapha: 2d alerted.. A Walddk2: All very reasonable Walddk2: The lead too rodal f: 2 are? funtay: sry baskanb: karoda 1 fazla kart var ve ˆ ikan var evet april: but W will lead.. funtay: bu deklerede degil funtay: major aciˆ ina ckesgin: kontr budur sabahki kontru gˆ rˆ p kafasˆ karˆ ˆ anlara baskanb: ˆ ok karˆ ˆ ˆ k bir el D-B her an nt yapabilir :) april: might be a misunderstanding.. rodal f: If as I belive its free to take a que on the road baskanb: 2pike pass? siyabend: 4sp biraz iymser oldu gibi senmel: fazla iyimser oldu rodal f: How to bid that slam?.. Q f_aydogdu: bilmeyenler icin abimin benden once istanbulda calistˆ gˆ donemdeki pdri orhan abi ve bir cok sampiyonluklari var ben kadar olmasada baskanb: Orhan abi karo damˆ nˆ bilememiˆ siyabend: koz atak olmasa 4 h yapˆ labilrdi rodal f: WD EW.. K vugrapha: on card it says "FSJ limit+" hikmetd: atk bulunamazsa = hikmetd: :(:) Walddk2: 4-card majors, weak NT for N-S I presume.. 4 benjent: 2NT must be artificial - I suggest weak with C or some strong hand rodal f: NT are one but will miss the handle of I belive, so a partscore might? Or NT still benjent: would have been forced, and Koke s passed it out with the uninviting hand with s april: now and diescard of 1 and so on making EVEN.. 2 bjacobs: I think this match might go down to the wire. On paper, ACT is a little stronger bjacobs: And yes, I think NS play an Acol style baskanb: tref deˆ erlerini beˆ enmedi muhtemelen sˆ rtˆ ndan 1tref aˆ ˆ lˆ nca baylind: passla hemfikir degiliz rodal f: Why 4?? 4 are obviouse.. rodal f: On the way to 4 f_aydogdu: h cˆ kmasa murat: defans bˆ tˆ n lˆ veleri alacak gibi champ i: selamlar murat: selam baskanb: batˆ dan oynanan nt ye pik ataˆ ˆ boˆ landˆ ktan sonra kˆ r dˆ nerek batˆ rˆ labiliyor.. A hikmetd: Aˆ ik odada Akgˆ n 4 diyemedi.. 2 baskanb: ilk borddan sonra tansiyonu dˆ ˆ ˆ ren bir bord nt sˆ ylemek de yapmak da sorunsuz april: 11 tricks available if S takes finesse agaist K of.. rodal f: Rest to see now are if N play the single vugraphzuh: atakdan sonra claim edildi:) murat e: 11 rodal f: Same here Jane.. 4 april: to ace and 10.. K ckesgin: K 1NT aˆ abilirdi hele de.den araya giriˆ i ve atak ikisi de uymazdˆ.. rodal f: But not nessesary home... T

12 baylind: grup olarak seyrediyoruz kimse pass demedi 2sp e MolvaM: ne dedi gruptakiler? baylind: karo baskanb: ne kadar ˆ anslˆ yˆ z yorumcular arasˆ nda yarˆ ˆ macˆ lardan oluˆ an bir panel var baskanb: herkese selamlar :) tweety1: selam april: making.. Q arigun: muhtemelen 11 love olacak aruf: rahat bir nt eli baskanb: ama 1 kˆ r aˆ ˆ ldˆ ktan sonra As kˆ r ataˆ ˆ na da batˆ yor arigun: 4 de sorunsuzdu.. benjent: I think Max should get s wrong so he doesn t feel bad about missing NT :).. murat: hatta kˆ rˆ ˆ ekip iki tur karo oynarlarsa 2 batar senmel: tref rua ikili olsa icerde olura gelmisti simdi ckesgin: 20 tutuˆ var ama Q deˆ er kaybetmiˆ olabilir K deˆ erlendi ancak kˆ tˆ koz daˆ ˆ lˆ mˆ endikasyonu ˆ ˆ ktˆ 10 kuzeyde olsa kontr da gelecekti ayrˆ ca kontrdan sonra bu kadar... ckesgin: savunma kuvveti iˆ ermemeli 4 murat: ˆ ˆ ˆ ncˆ karo ˆ imdi atalok: 2 H uzerine H Dermi diyenlere atalok: ben demezdim koz 4 tane olmadˆ gˆ icin baskanb: Coˆ kun abi burdurdan Ali Salgˆ Abimizden alert geldi Nevzat abinin Nt ye. dia Karo dam olmamasˆ nˆ tolere ediyomuˆ :) rodal f: Winners are to feew.. J bircan: nevzat abi bastiriyo ama, bord cok duz vugrapha: writing explanations.. 6 haans: quick up with A = have the Q murat: gˆ zel defans.. Walddk2: Isn t it a major upset that neither NSW nor Vic made it to this stage?.. J.. A april: endplayed.. siyabend: selamlar f_aydogdu: SLM.. K april: don t cover!!.... Q haans: had you overcalled? baskanb: mrb abi :) baskanb: bˆ yle ellerle kˆ r demek ortaklˆ ˆ ˆ n yarˆ ˆ ma gˆ cˆ nˆ zayˆ flatˆ r kanaatindeyim siyabend: keyifli seyirler.. atalok: 1 nolu elde ekinci karo damˆ n yerini bulamayˆ p batmˆ s.. benjent: Max is maximising the play time on this hand - he must have been deprived on some previous hand.... J.. T rodal f: :) benjent: Getting a few questions on M Smart s name. His parents named him Michael, but everyone else is a big fan of Get Smart and calls him Max funtay: pasi yerine pasi daha iyi april: now 10 tricks.... T gurayserim: fethiye-major : bord april: satisfied with.. 4 haans: taking K to be sure.. Q bjacobs: NSW failing to make it is a major upset.. K A T.. J vugraphzuh: 2 aˆ ar el olarak alert edˆ ldˆ bu elde

13 Board 4 this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K. - 2 EW: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 o N W c N W Q J10 K Q J AQ A AK J10 6 W N S E 4 J K 2 K 6 2 Q6 4 2 A N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S 1N p 2 p 2 p p N p p p #1 N:: J,4,2,Q #2 W:: J,2,,T # W::,4,A, #4 E:: 2,4,Q,A # N:: 6, 2, K, #6 S::,A,, # W:: K,6,, # W:: Q,, 4, # W::,,6, #10 W:: J,K,Q, ahollan1: 16+ unbal or 1+bal..1N..p..2..p..2..p.. ahollan1: Berk-Cohen 1N opener is EXCEPT 4th=1-1..p..N..p..p..p.. J Vugraphu1: Berk: "something about those hearts ".. 4 sybarra: hi Q.. J T A Q.. A.. 6 ritong: hello shirley ahollan1: Berk too weak to misguess K.... mrace: can make 6 if plays sp Q.. A K ahollan1: is there any other option to at this point? ritong: sure ahollan1: i guess so.... Q ritong: a then a ruff Board 4 this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K. - 0 EW: Ankara Uni. S.K. - 2 o N W c N W Q J10 K Q J AQ A AK J10 6 W N S E 4 J K 2 K 6 2 Q6 4 2 A N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S 1N p 2 p 2 p p N p p p #1 N:: J,4,,Q #2 W::,4,A,T # E:: 2,J,Q,A #4 N:: 6, 2, K, # S::,A,, #6 W:: K,2,, # W:: Q,6,, 2 # W:: J,, 4, # W::,,6,4 #10 W::,,K, #11 E:: Q,,,A #12 N:: K,6,, T #1 N:: T,,T, J vugrapha: sorry about north s name, correct now J.. K.. Q.. april: taking J of no risk!!! haans: right haans: nt here rodal f: They play 1 at the other room now. 1NT E april: 1 2 and then NT by W?..1N f_aydogdu: 4sp olacak bir baskanb: cengiz arˆ gˆ n bir noda aˆ ˆ ˆ a pass deyince Orhan abi kˆ r asˆ nˆ aˆ ˆ cˆ ya plase etmiˆ Asˆ olan cevap verebilirdi diye dˆ ˆ ˆ nerek haans: or open 2nt..p f_aydogdu: birollar derse nt april: EW miht reach NT but will fail on lead

14 haans: Big Club? april: probably april: still haans: they play precision nickf: All system cards /events/anc/ Walddk2: 2 2NT and then...? bjacobs: They had a very good team... including players who have played in World Championship final rounds vugrapha: System Cards = /events/anc/200/systems.html Walddk2: Can Bachi find extra values? arigun: 6! tek batacak slam NS icin benjent: Seems like De Luca forgot to use Blackwood on 11 - hence the swing to ACT..p f_aydogdu: bence bunuda soyleyecekler haans: any bid from east = game..2 april: are 6 points enough? rodal f: Puppet used? arigun: 6NT lovesi ile oluyor arigun: 6 batacak kontrat ve NT oluyor arigun: konturlu olursa slam kadar veriyor..p haans: can you pass with 6..! haans: precision gives and takes rodal f: Then telling benjent: Playing out exactly like puppet rodal f: On for a nice slam now:) vugrapha: for system cards see /events/anc/200/systems.html baskanb: merhabalarrrrr :) f_aydogdu: nt april: 2 and then NT..p f_aydogdu: trefe h atˆ p yapar abim bunu ckesgin: davet eden varmˆ? 1NT aˆ mayan var mˆ sorusu kolay yerden baskanb: Sn Sˆ leyman Kolata aramˆ zda kendisini sahneye davet ediyoruz :) f_aydogdu: diyecekler ama vale tref ataga batacak bircan: ataˆ ˆ na N, ataˆ ˆ na 4 batakta galiba haans: nt wrong now..n haans: how is that possible april: W shouldplay NT and not E, but he wants to play in a minor, to bad murat: kuzeyde bu sekansta bulabileceˆ iniz en iyi koz sayˆ sˆ var. ckesgin: leri gˆ zardˆ etti hakan baskanb: bazˆ 1 dengelileri turanˆ n nt aˆ madˆ ˆ ˆ na ˆ ahit olmuˆ tum zaman zaman ama bu kez aˆ tˆ puanlar tepe onˆ rlerden oluˆ tuˆ u iˆ in muhtemelen :) april: tricks only..p baskanb: benim tercihim nt olurdu Ahunun elinden baskanb: markalarla destekli tepe onˆ rlerden oluˆ an bi 12 var bjacobs: Smart can..p rodal f: Sr Lost con but ended up as exspeted ckesgin: 2. e bˆ yˆ k koyarak batma yolunda kuvvetli bir adˆ m atmˆ ˆ tˆ ama...olamadˆ. murat: bakalˆ m 4kˆ r diyebilecekler mi murat: derken baskanb: panelimize soralˆ m arigun: yalcin mudahele firsati bulamadi zonda oldugu icin baskanb: burda hiˆ yorumcu yok galba kimse selamˆ mˆ zˆ almadˆ :) bjacobs: Smart was really stuck over 2 I suppose..p Walddk2: I think 2NT is textbook stuff bjacobs: Bagchi "see red" (the vulnerability) and bids NT Walddk2: Doesn t that show with a C stopper? f_aydogdu: bazˆ larˆ abimin eliyle oyun acmak isteyebilirler ama bende acmiyorum murat: en az 10 el alˆ yor ˆ u an baskanb: seyircilerden kocaman bir alkˆ ˆ alabilirsek ikna edebiliriz belki tatilinde ˆ alˆ ˆ maya :) haans: if you double 2 please hide = no more bidding.. J april: now they are overboard bjacobs: Yes... tougher if you take a point or two away Walddk2: Now, let s see f_aydogdu: majorler oldugu icin cok cazip vugraphzuh: pek bi sessiz olduk:) atalok: cl atagˆ na yere dogru sp oynanˆ rsa nt olur bircan: hadi bi ekmekte GS yesin benjent: No danger, but NT is a (marginally) better/safer contract than 4. And a lot safer than rodal f: Use NT openings so this show 1-1(1) baskanb: o zaman ben biraz saˆ malayayˆ m m ˆ sade ederseniz :))) vugraphzuh: :) haans: precion at its worse.. haans: precision

15 hikmetd: iyi atak ve KANTAR aˆ ilisi oynamiyorlar, nakalim Tigan defansi bulacak mkˆ? baylind: panel olarak katˆ lˆ oyoruz sana MolvaM2: kˆ r fitini bulmuˆ deˆ iller henˆ z san ˆ rˆ m ckesgin: 10 preferansˆ murat e: tref 10 aman karo dˆ nme diyo april: the 2NT bid was not the best idea.. Q Walddk2: he will let this ride to his queen and advance 10 to the queen champ i: kamil abi bir h deseydi iyiydi bircan: lˆ ve yetmiyor oynasada f_aydogdu: dam ikiliden cok zor atalok: as alˆ rsa oda f_aydogdu: genede de kalˆ r bˆ rakˆ r bircan: sˆ leymanˆ n dediˆ i gibi acele A girilirse sakat f_aydogdu: gecen elki 4 h gercekten cok sanli tek karoya as getiriliyor ve ad10 pikin ustunde rv sek f_aydogdu: zonda 1karo 2karoya 4 h dedi nuri bence cˆ lgˆ nca bise ebeb: tref bloke kalmˆ yo mu rodal f: Was a spot for 6 here. Still tough are arigun: 2nt-dbl, puan vaadediyor ve ceza agirlikli bir el f_aydogdu: artˆ k yapar siyabend: koza devam etse batˆ racaktˆ april: the X was also wrong, because E makes it now and W WAS FORCED TO CONTINUE BIDDING ANYWAY.. 4 haans: you can not sell precision withn that bidding ckesgin: kuzey ˆ nce pas geˆ ip sonra diyerek pastan geliyorum konvansiyonu oynuyor baskanb: merci bu soruyu da kazasˆ z atlattˆ k :) baylind: bu arada salvo,nezih,naci burda herkese slm diliyorlar MolvaM: dikkat et burak panel yakˆ nda darbe yapˆ p masayˆ ele geˆ irecek baskanb: paneldekileri sˆ ledi daha nasˆ l konu ˆ acaz zaten paˆ am MolvaM: bizden de panele selamlar :) arigun: Vera nin i ortagina yollamadan cue bid edip demesi cok kuvvetli el gosteriyor muhakkak arigun: ew kontratina 11 love alabiliyor, NS icin tahmin edilebilirse 10 love var baylind: salvo isim vermek istemedi :).. A arigun: Orhan kalitesinde emin olsa biraz daha canli konusmaasi lazimdi belki bjacobs: On either black suit switch, it seems N/ S has tricks.. T vugraphzuh: Kantar atak varmˆ diye soruldu cevap:yok f_aydogdu: tref markalarˆ kurtariyor baskanb: no da Nuri Cengiz in 4 kˆ rˆ ters zonda ˆ okk agresif ama iyi sonuˆ vermiˆ bircan: her cinayeti ˆ ˆ zˆ yomusunuz amirim :) f_aydogdu: rakip 2 karo yaparken 00 her an verilebilir atalok: bence 1 d ya kontur atˆ lmˆ sdˆ r rodal f: By there systemcard. How to get in the key cards?.. 2 vugrapha: 4d key card hikmetd: Kon.Kartlarinda YOK ckesgin: direk 2 demektense baskanb: 2noda arigun: ama o da hakli olarak den korkuyor... J arigun: hakan in elinden 1 acilirsa yalcinin eli uygun seviyede deklerasyona mudahale edebiliyor arigun: o zaman isler belki biraz karisabilir arigun: bu boarddan muhtemel skorlar =, konturlu -1 veya -2 ckesgin: Aslar ˆ ok ˆ nemlidir iki onˆ r sek dˆ ˆ ˆ nda insiyatif kullanmak sakˆ ncalˆ (1).. Q siyabend: pardon koz atagˆ na benjent: So small opportunity for SA if Lusk-De Luca can bid 6 in the other room - not clearcut, but De Luca is an... enthusiastic... bidder.. A baskanb: Melih ˆ en dˆ nya genˆ ler 2li ˆ ampiyonu atalok: evet 2 noda 1 karo kontur 2 karo 4 kor olmustur digeri heryerden sacma rodal f: I will take a look.. 6 april: its still 1 down.. 2 Walddk2: Yes, first to.. K f_aydogdu: deklerede yazmiyor dbl ama olabilir baskanb: Tezcan ˆ eni hepiniz tanˆ yorsunuzudur dˆ nya imp 2li ve avrupa mixed 2li ˆ ampiyonu.... april: of to give count.. A benjent: The play for 6 from here is to cash two top diamonds, ruff a diamond then play the rd baskanb: Merhabalarrrr ebeb: dbl olmasa 2d inverted olurdu murat: selam.. vugraphzuh: selam gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 0-20 Bord

16 atalok: cl Q oynamanˆ n anlamˆ yokdu.. K bjacobs: Having a good holiday Roland? benjent: Q was optional :) champ i: selam zuner: selam herkese vugraphzuh: selam baskanb: ˆ en soyadˆ iˆ sim benzerliˆ i :) baskanb: zannediyorum aˆ ˆ k odada deklarasyonlar ˆ n yazˆ mˆ nda bir sorun var Walddk2: Fine thx.. gurayserim: running scores /docs/bolgesel_haberler/200/kuluplerarasi/ ceyrek_htm.htm.. Q baskanb: Nezih Kubaˆ ve Bˆ lent Aslanˆ n da tˆ rkiye ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ var sayˆ sˆ nˆ hatˆ rlamadˆ ˆ ˆ m kadar Nezih Bey milli oyuncu aynˆ zamanda Bˆ lent de bir kez milli oldu galba benjent: Just max-imising the play time I think :).. 6 rodal f: De Luca waited a long time before she? passed 4. Opening there was NT... baskanb: selamlar sˆ rˆ -ˆ lisan affola artˆ k bˆ yle bi jˆ ri huzurunda :) siyabend: mrb sulayman baskanb: fethiye takˆ mˆ yla antalyada gˆ zel gˆ nlerimiz olmuˆ tu benim yerime kamil abi girmiˆ daha iyi derece almalarˆ gerek.. baylind: salvonun tansiyonu cˆ ktˆ vale karoya rua karo oturulunca ckesgin:! de J iˆ indi ama K de V olsaydˆ iˆ e yarardˆ allttan april: well done altough it was not difficult J bjacobs: Of course the Vu Graph organization is a schemozzle with you away... :) Walddk2: Bill, our expert on Yiddish baskanb: Abi hg bizi kˆ rmadˆ n merci :) f_aydogdu: slm baskanb: ama belki otur demiˆ tir Ahu valeyi oynarken :).. rodal f: c.. 4 bircan: brawo orhan abi.. benjent: Attilio De Luca. He. Beard and all... f_aydogdu: ve nt arastˆ rˆ lmadan hemen 4 h lede mutabˆ k degilim baskanb: Tezcan bey de milli oyuncularˆ mˆ zdan hikmetd: If any question pls write to me.. 4 hikmetd: le yatirmak en iyi kart gibi riyilikci: eskiˆ ehirden herkese selamlar ckesgin: ekincideki A olsaydˆ batˆ racaktˆ Nevzat K hikmetd: bravo.. rodal f: Thx Ben.. Q.... baylind: :) benjent: Gets to have a bit of fun ruffing his A.. A bircan: as yok ama RV versek?.. K f_aydogdu: bizim polis gucˆ takimi burda seyirci oldu bu sene haldun abi hosgeldin.. T.. T

17 Board this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K. - 2 EW: Galatasaray S.K o N N c N N J Q 6 A AK 4 A K 4 2 K10 2 W N S E Q K Q J J J A10 Q N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S 1 p 1 p 2 p p N p p p 4 4 ritong: save time, B A J.. Q J ritong: good A T.. mrace: he heard u.. 4 ritong: no wonder #1 E::,,2,A #2 N::,,J,Q # W::, 2, 6,J #4 S:: 4,A,2, # W::,4,T, #6 E:: 4,Q,, # S:: 6,, K, # N:: T,Q,, T # E:: A,, 6, ahollan1: but ruff wasn t going away, was it or am i swayed by knowing the whole hand :(.. T.. J ritong: i m afraid so ritong: but np, al you are an entertainer Vugraphu1: Berk, who said "it s too late to think about this" just said "they ll never make that in the other room" :) A subtle complaint about flat boards ahollan1: who ain t got no rhythm..1..p ahollan1: 1 =4+ maybe any longer suit never &..1 ahollan1: oops not longer..p..2..p Vugraphu1: Eke said something about 2 and Berk said "so you don t have 4 any more?" Eke " right, it shows 4 with a few more" Vugraphu1: Berk: "thank you; at least you have a fit"....p..n..p..p..p

18 Board this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K EW: Ankara Uni. S.K. - 2 o N N c N N J Q 6 A AK 4 A K 4 2 K10 2 W N S E Q K Q J J J A10 Q N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S 1 p 1 p 2 p p N p p p #1 E::,,6,K #2 N:: T,,4,A # W:: 2,A,, #4 N:: K,,6, T # N:: A,6,,2 #6 N:: 2,Q,, # E:: A,,6,2 april: only a partscore in.. Q K.... T.. Q.... T.. A bjacobs: Might be the only one I know... well maybe muzzletoff (?) Walddk2: mazeltov hikmetd: evet kˆ tˆ defansa iyi uyun zuner: kamil abiler..izmirde bize karsi kˆ tˆ oynadiilar..adasim yer onlari:) baskanb: 1dia murat e: iki battˆ senmel: kac love aldi defans vugraphzuh: -2 Oldu senmel: ok 1 yazdinda baskanb: evet 6 lˆ ve ˆ retebilecek bir renge sahipken nt yabana atˆ lamaz atalok: elde 2 imp 4 cude 12 her an gelebilir ortalama cok yuksek MolvaM: bu maˆ ˆ ncesi skorlar ˆ ˆ yle idi clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_round.php? round=11..1 bircan: bu turanˆ tutacak adam yokmu? baskanb: iyi baraj olacak gibi duruyor april: 1NT by S and X by W XX by N or 2H transfer..p benjent: This should be fun! hikmetd:...oyun f_aydogdu: 4 h sorunsuz f_aydogdu: rahat deklere edip yaparlar baskanb: kamil abi disiplinli :) MolvaM: ilk 4 takˆ m nakavta kalacak baskanb: 1cl ye overcall eden? april: N could make a trial bid because of 6 losers only and S might accept..1 atalok: bence d Q ˆ nˆ saymazsak 1 var 2 H yeterdi april: is it a genuian XX or some conventional bid?..p rodal f: from N benjent: EW make 6, NS make tricks in & MolvaM: diˆ erleri ise hˆ zˆ nlˆ 1 hafta geˆ irmek ˆ zere evlerine dˆ necekler f_aydogdu: 4hrun sansˆ vardi baskanb: bu elde 14 le 1nt aˆ mak iyi sonuˆ verebilirdi deklaran 4 kˆ r tercih etseydi tersten karo kupunu almasˆ defansˆ n zor olabilirdi bircan: deminki N e aynˆ atak geldi ˆ bˆ r tarafta, muhtemel egale olacak benjent: I don t like 4 from East here - much too good a hand..2 baskanb: etkin sorunun devamˆ nˆ da cevaplad ˆ :) baskanb: gˆ zel 1 4 kˆ r izleyecez gibi duruyor atalok: 14 prd april: good decision..p haans: conv rodal f: Why don t E take a que/ anwansed que on his road? vahaboglu: herkese gˆ naydˆ n vahaboglu: merhaba Fikret f_aydogdu: sgl abi baskanb: pik ˆ ˆ kˆ lˆ nca nt yapˆ labiliyor baskanb: ama ˆ imdi passtan gelen ele karˆ ˆ tavˆ r almak zor baskanb: 2piki iyi sˆ yledi rakip 1 e 2 konuˆ urken fazla biˆ ey vaadetmez atalok: atalarˆ mˆ z majorun varsa oyna demis vahaboglu: gene de Nevzat ˆ temsilci gˆ - 1 -

19 nderdik.. baskanb: Merhabalarrr haans: off the trap :)))..p april: now forcing or not? 2 before was better!! rodal f: Or the best.2nt benjent: And while I m criticising the bidding, I m not wild about North s negative X either. Skinny rodal f: After 4 all roads was closed to find the slam benjent: Yes, Khokan wouldn t have been surprised to find that he was going down in with making despite his aces rodal f: Would anyone have made an X in N over 2? arigun: merhaba burak baskanb: Nezih abinin passˆ Forcing f_aydogdu: evet ustelik smolen yapilmis ve bu renk sende 2li rodal f: I don t like it. Give E the 2NT free bid. Better to emty the hand by..n f_aydogdu: eskiden maclarda milleti eler comandator yapardik su dustumuz hallere bak:)) senmel: ilginc duruma geldi april: just making..p baskanb: mˆ thiˆ sˆ yledi artˆ k nt oynarlar MolvaM: pazar sabahˆ iˆ in bu eller fazla dˆ z. seyirciler ise kan gˆ vdeyi gˆ tˆ rsˆ n ister baskanb: evet ve damˆ nˆ sayacaksak da o nt kontratˆ iˆ in deˆ erlyidi :) Walddk2: Old-fashioned limit raise, I like it..p bjacobs: stone age Acol... works though vahaboglu: :) vahaboglu: herkes sˆ rayla deneyecek vahaboglu: hiˆ deˆ ilse elenmedik ya funtay: 6 oynamak mˆ mkˆ n bu eli ancak Terfler ve Karolar kotu dagilmiˆ..p vugraphzuh: 1 - mis MolvaM: 1NTX uyanmak iˆ in iyi bir seˆ enek mesela arigun: oynanan kontrat makul lakin disarda koz dagilimi biraz nahos ckesgin: 1 diyen ortak mˆ gerekli 2 diyene de zon mˆ mˆ n mˆ li majˆ rle Nt aˆ arken buna bakmalˆ baskanb: 1nt bence sakˆ ncalˆ li M var ve aslardan oluˆ an 1 var f_aydogdu: bende 4hden yanayim caka maka kurtarabilir kaadi baskanb: ˆ zˆ r zaten 1 varmˆ ˆ :) gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : Bord benjent: I agree - if you re going to make a bid, make a useful one.. rodal f: 4 in the other room senmel: difficult to bid nt now senmel: diger oda muhtemel 2 oynar murat e: koz defansˆ en iyisi ckesgin: 2 diyen ele de zon arayacaksak aˆ mamalˆ 1 iken tamam bircan: nevzat abi iyi atak yaptˆ ama ten oyun sonu olacaklar muhtemelen f_aydogdu: tref bircan: bu kart tam DD problem f_aydogdu: kotu karara bunada batma potansiyeli var atalok: elden alˆ p cl R oynamasˆ lazˆ m love icin baskanb: 2 kˆ rˆ n ˆ stˆ ne kˆ r ˆ ˆ kˆ lmasˆ da sˆ zkonusu deˆ il.. MolvaM: olmadˆ arigun: orhanin elinden bir alternatif de 2 demek o zaman vera 2nt diyecekti baskanb: ˆ zel bir bilgi vereyim Hakan Abi ˆ ok ˆ zel durumlar dˆ ˆ ˆ nda koz ˆ ˆ kmayˆ tasvip etmez :) ckesgin: boˆ korkutucuydu bu sekansta NT cide iyi olabilir ˆ ˆ kmayˆ nca gidebilir dedi Hakan baskanb: piki elden alˆ r trefl T oynarsa sorunsuz vahaboglu: bu deklere iˆ in Dbl yerine 2, davet+ daha doˆ ru olurdu.. 6 f_aydogdu: seyirci arkadaslar ben aslinda galatasarayda oyuncuyum her nekadar trabzonlu olsakta orhan abiyi kˆ rmadik ama aldigim aylˆ k oynamama cezasˆ eylul2 de doluyor oyuzden oynamiyorum baskanb: bu deklarasyonda 1cl aˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ve belki ahunun 1nt si dˆ ˆ ˆ ndakilere katˆ lmˆ yorum :) baskanb: Nezih zannˆ mca bˆ lentin kontruna kˆ r diyerek slam daveti yapmak iˆ in pass dedi ama bˆ lent aˆ ˆ rˆ dengesizle karo deyin anlam kargaˆ asˆ doˆ muˆ olabilir vahaboglu: bazˆ oyuncular bu Batˆ nˆ n elini 2 e sokabilir, ama lˆ fit davet elidir.. K f_aydogdu: abim benle oynuyoz gibi dusunuyo 4lu olabilir major sanˆ yor arigun: ama bu tip ellerle (ortagin davetini kabul etmeyecek) duzeltmeyi ben de sevmiyorum, muhtemel 4- (-2) yerine iyi olmasa da fazla yukselmiyorsunuz baskanb: tekini ˆ ˆ kmayan aˆ lar derler ama bu el iˆ in deˆ ilmiˆ :) bircan: en iyisi elden x oynamak, ama yerden - 1 -

20 ne koyacaksˆ n senmel: iyi cesaret vx karo ile.. T arigun: nt en guzel kontrat atalok: cl R DOGRUSU f_aydogdu: 10 tref iyi haans: finesse is all cards now in WEST.. rodal f: But 2 are a bit better then 2 so no argue from me now:) vugraphzuh: h 2tarafdanda konturlandˆ :).. 4 bircan: 10 a mutabˆ kˆ m baskanb: hele ki zon kontratlarˆ na gerˆ ekten herˆ eye hakim deˆ ilken yani elin tˆ m bilgisine sahip deˆ ilse asla koz ˆ ˆ kmaz.. A bircan: o bize mahsus baskan f_aydogdu: doru yapar baskanb: 2 karoya pass makul bence de.. 2 arigun: benzer dagilim, -10 civari olsa puan, 4 2ya ragmen 2 e duzeltmek lazim, ortagin 2NT suna NT diyebilecek ellerle atalok: buda aynˆ oldu april: all necessary cards are placed badly for declarer, so he will make only tricks.. A april: W is somehow endplayede hikmetd: ˆ anakkaleye IMP ler geliyor ckesgin: da diyebilirdi belki ˆ imdi 4 e gelmelilerdi april: disacrd.... ckesgin: 2 pas neydi onu da bilmek lazˆ m ayrˆ ca.. K murat e: biliyorum 2- turnuva oynadˆ k beraber bodrum taraflarˆ nda daha yeni gracelin: Hi all, got time wrong, srry... baskanb: 1nt de 6 lˆ ve alˆ nabiliyordu baskanb: pass partaj karoya MolvaM: selamlar :).. 6 atalok: bu arada 2 nonun deklerasyonu dogruymus cengiz 4 H demis ciddi ciddi.. T gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-20 Bord vahaboglu: senin yokluˆ unu aramˆ yor yani.. A f_aydogdu: gel moral ver diyor pztesi gidecegim murat e: bˆ lent yardˆ m ediyo baskanb: Paˆ ammm hg gel 2 ˆ ift laf et millet benim saˆ malamamdan bˆ kmˆ ˆ :).. 6 rodal f: Looks like an easy spot for 11?.. arigun: ozgur bakan hosgeldin.. 2 ckesgin: iyiydi ama bu elde 2 diyen daha kolay gelecekti nt ye hobakan: merhabalar herkese, baskanb: nt alternatiflerden biriyse demiˆ ti galba deˆ il mi bir briˆ bˆ yˆ ˆ ˆ mˆ z :) haans: you 1 imp late :).. 2 rodal f: Sr. I need a sigaret:( brb senmel: bord bitti gracelin: yes, missed all the drama.. Q hikmetd: IMP baskanb: Nuri abi Ankarada yaˆ ar ama hemˆ ehrimdir Nazillilidir burnu iyi koku alˆ r :).... atalok: yok yok kontur denmis operatorler duzeltmislerr f_aydogdu: orhan abinin de boyu uzundur ama yaramadi baskanb: olsun yine de Nuri Abinin burnu iyi koku alˆ r :) f_aydogdu: ayrica sansar lakabˆ zuner: kˆ r oynarsa kurtarir yoksa hasan sqˆ z.. A.. atalok: sansar kapalˆ da nt atmakla mesgul baskanb: bˆ lent karo dˆ nse zorlayabilirlerdi.. 6 atalok: batmakla.. 2 hikmetd: veya 6 IMP vugraphzuh: ufak bir mola baskanb: Mehmet Ali abi bu eldeki oyunuyla bir tebrik haketti bence ˆ ok basit gˆ rˆ nmekle beraber dˆ zgˆ n bir kart oyunu gerektiriyordu kart gurayserim: Fethiye - Major : 1-20 Bord f_aydogdu: kesinlikle f_aydogdu: dogru f_aydogdu: yarisi batar bu kagˆ da bi turnuvada,

21 Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Ankara Uni. S.K. 4 2 EW: Galatasaray S.K o 2 S 2 0 c 1N S J K Q K K 6 J10 Q J104 W N S E Q 2 AK J A 6 A 4 Q 2 A N: N.Cengiz W: O.Ekinci Open E: N.Aydogdu S: C.Arigun W N E S p 1 p 1 p 1N p 2 p 2 p p p mrace: or "i have s stopper, do u have a solid suit?" :) ritong: for him, 1 is " hey i ve got a stopper, do you have a solid suit?" ritong: hence the paki cue name ritong: btw, i m not sure paki is not a bit vulgar can you tell me, jan?..p..p..p ritong: if so, i apol my frenglish, u know... 4 Vugraphu1: Granovetter says that 1 showed either + balanced or some -suiters Ekeblad then says "I ll explain - he doesn t have the hand, so has some balanced + and I have Vugraphu1: hearts. Given that, he signed off in 4 " ahollan1: i think 2 was RELAY and 2 said 1- suit mrace: strong hand, and long trump being on board makes things easier for defence, though they dont have much to do on this one..... Q.. A.. K J Vugraphu1: Eke wanted to go smoke and G said "don t go smoke, it s going to be a fast hand" Now he s thinking and Eke is complaining mrace: lol T.. T.. #1 W:: 4,,Q,A #2 S:: K,,, 2 # S:: J,, 6, #4 S:: 6,T, T, # N:: Q,2,6,K #6 W:: J,K,A,2 # E::,4,Q, # W::,,,Q # S::,T, J, 4 ahollan1: but pushes not helping Meltzer cause at this stage Vugraphu1: Berk asks Cohen if 1 - (asking for a stopper for NT) is still on against Eke- Gran. Cohen says yes. Vugraphu1: Meanwhile, Granovetter & Ekeblad are discussing that maybe G should have raised spades ritong: the famous paki cue ahollan1: 1 =16+ unbal or 1+bal..p ahollan1: 1 =+ bal or something that doesn t apply..1..p ritong: ordinarily, 1 says " hey, i have a solid suit, do yoˆ u stop s?"..1..p ahollan1: 2 =6+ ritong: zia found a way to use it more often..1n ahollan1: and guarantees some singleton or void..p..2..2waycb xfer to!d..p..2!

22 Board 6 this/total IMPs NS: Galatasaray S.K EW: Ankara Uni. S.K. 4 2 o 2 S 2 0 c 1N S J K Q K K 6 J10 Q J104 W N S E Q 2 AK J A 6 A 4 Q 2 A N: M.A.ince W: O.Goksel Closed E: A.Ozalp S: M.Karadeni W N E S 1 p 1 p p 1N p p p #1 W::,,Q,A #2 S:: Q,,,4 # S:: A,,, #4 S:: 6,K,4,2 # W:: J,K,A,2 #6 E::,K,4, 6 # S:: 4,Q,, # W:: T,,, # W:: T, T, 2,J #10 S:: 2,K,T, #11 W::, J,,6 #12 E:: A,6,,J #1 E::,,,Q senmel: hosgeldin abi.. Q K.. J.. K.. A Q Q.... T.. J.. 4 baylind: erdinin yorumlarˆ cok ˆ st sˆ nˆ f seyircilerin anlamasˆ zor olabilir vugraphzuh: ˆ mer Kˆ zˆ lok hoˆ geldin vugraphzuh: Bora Belgˆ Hoˆ geldin:) murat e: ˆ u daˆ gibi el pik bile olmuyo ckesgin: ya Q denenmeliydi 1kaybedeckesek sorun olmazdˆ 2 verirken kazanˆ rsa iyi olurdu MolvaM: hohohohho olurmu canˆ m. daha geˆ en gˆ n birisi bana ˆ zelden sˆ yledi ˆ ok saˆ malˆ yormuˆ um ben :) baskanb: sokakta da saksˆ dˆ ˆ ebilir yani baˆ ˆ mˆ za :) baylind: :)..p f_aydogdu: 6 h piki bulursa olur..1 baskanb: iˆ te kanlˆ bi el paˆ am gˆ zˆ n aydˆ n f_aydogdu: bence 6ya gelecekler baskanb: 4 benjent: The card gods are sure smiling on Max..p f_aydogdu: sukriyeler 4hre gelir -1 hobakan: saˆ ol melihcim:) baskanb: sana da ˆ yle dedilerse bizim yorum hayatˆ mˆ z bitmiˆ demektir funtay: Murat Anter aramizda Hos geldin:)..1 emre kaya: 6 kapalˆ elde iyi gibi duruyor ama batˆ yor maalesef MolvaM: :) april: X and 1NT by S and 2 by W..p haans: noth nice responding gracelin: slam is good for NS, but they need to choose to play in Diamond rather than club rodal f: Bergen rais it looks like hobakan: gˆ ney elinden 2pik mi? baskanb: 1 mi 2 mi bjacobs: Welcome Rodal - I see you are just 1 years old..1n rodal f: Lol:) Those ugly months. bjacobs: Hey, your psychology has worked on me. Can t be bothered doing the math benjent: Lead philosophy test for Andy here - 4th, or try to find partner? vugrapha: North just said e/w should be playin rubber baylind: pik pasˆ nda yapabiliyor emre MolvaM: ˆ eyrek final 2. devreleri oynanˆ yor ˆ u an april: there could be a slam..p gracelin: 6C is not a bad contract either but would fail on the 4-1 off-side trump split haans: did 2 show extra april: are - so 12 tricks are coming in gracelin: south has an easy D to me. rodal f: And a nice stop at level murat: teˆ ekkˆ rler Tayfun abi, yazˆ yorum bir yere :) ckesgin: murat e: hakan sinirlenicek iyice vugraphzuh: 2 baskanb: benim tercihim 1 den yana olurdu aˆ ˆ kˆ asˆ benjent: I lead 4th (ie )... and so does Andy..p baskanb: ahu hemen merakˆ mˆ zˆ gidersdi f_aydogdu: ahu ablam gonderdi hic ugrastirmadi baskanb: bu elden sonra keˆ ke yer 2 boˆ yerine